Toxic Plastic--What A Gas!

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Originally Posted by seru1

everybody has to die someway.


Luckily i eat to much cheese to worry about pvc :rofl:

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well I don't smoke, don't drink and am not currently married ( or have kids) soI got ot dye from something. soI burn another tub and go gas myself some more..
the toxin fumes is from when you actually melt ( burn) the plastics, I learned this a decade ago in school and I still sit around the campfire and melt down a few old butter bowls into large globs of harden platic. :rolleye2:

* then again the one time I got drunk I walked thought the campfire/bonfire to get ot the woods to take a leak lol

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Maybe I missed it but can I ask for links to a respected and peer reviewed scientific journal?

The fact someone likes birds and can run a web design company is nice - but it's not really an equivalency to a degree in chemistry and a thorough and proper research period.

I know offgassing exists for certin types of plastic ( and there are many different types by the way ) - but I also know the FDA has a habit of looking into these things.

If you really want a scary read look up the carcinogenic properties of soya - and people eat that. :O


dr del

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Good Sushi is good Sushi! :gj:

No 3 or V under my RBI rack :P Maybe one day i'll burn it and huff it to see if it makes me sick, just in case.

No 3s or Vs here. Let's pick a good, accredited source, shall we? "Heating pads releasing the toxins faster?" Doubt it.

Okay.
TupperwAre = small container used for food. It's a brand name. Like "plasticine", which I remember you used at some point. It has nothing to do with what we keep our animals in.
Tub = a large bin, generally clear, with holes and good enough ventilation, that we do keep our animals in, and apparently not made of any of this any so-called killer plastic.

You should read further. It's not just those numbers.

I guess you'll do what you want regardless.

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Originally Posted by Arsinoe

You should read further. It's not just those numbers.

I guess you'll do what you want regardless.

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You should also read further. That is not a scientific paper that is peer reviewed. It is written by someone who is not a scientist who keeps birds. We could probably easily find similarly written OPINIONS on how "habitats" are also toxic for your snake.

And you're right, we will continue to keep them in tubs - hundreds of thousands of snakes are living happy healthy lives in properly maintained tubs with perfect humidity, eating, growing, pooping and breeding in tubs all across the US. I don't recall anyone reporting an epidemic of snakes showing up with cancer as a result of doing so.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I don't recall anyone reporting an epidemic of snakes showing up with cancer as a result of doing so.

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That and i dont see them dieing from an OD of Plastic.


Theres stories on the net of heat pads malfunctioning and melting the tubs and the snake lived with out a problem.

Back to the drawing board :gj:

Bin racist. :rolleyes:

I have noticed that my reptiles have done much, much better in a rack versus a tank.

Temperatures are much more consistent, animals that were off food almost immediately went back on it, colors are better (for my leopard geckos)...

No ill effects here...

As others have stated..thousands and thousands of animals have been kept in racks for many years without ill effect. If you don't like it, don't do it..but don't push it on others and insult them for keeping their animals the way they want to. (ie, don't push your beliefs on others, whatever they may be...)