Super Super

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Originally Posted by RockingRoyals

I can´t agree with you. A Piebald or Axantic isn´t a Super het.
Supers only refer to homozygous co-dominants and not to recessives.

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Super is a made up name.

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Originally Posted by RockingRoyals

I can´t agree with you. A Piebald or Axantic isn´t a Super het.
Supers only refer to homozygous co-dominants and not to recessives.

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Except for in things like Red Axanthics, Ivory's, Silver Bullets, Silver streak ect. Where the word Super never appears in the name. ;) But I understand where your coming from..

But from the OP's stand point of breeding powerhouse's and not naming. Any Homozygous is a Super..Because there in NO normal offspring.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

There is the Super Pewter http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

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I hate to say it, but breeding powerhouse that he may be, he is an ugly little spud. Maybe he will look better once he's grown. lol

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Except for in things like Red Axanthics, Ivory's, Silver Bullets, Silver streak ect. Where the word Super never appears in the name. ;) But I understand where your coming from..

But from the OP's stand point of breeding powerhouse's and not naming. Any Homozygous is a Super..Because there in NO normal offspring.

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And again i disagree. Only Homozygous Co-dominants are Supers.
Breed a Homozygous Piebald to a normal and all your offspring also will be normal. The only thing i can agree in is that every homozygous Morph is a Super animal for my collection :P:P:P....

Greets

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Originally Posted by RockingRoyals

And again i disagree. Only Homozygous Co-dominants are Supers.
Breed a Homozygous Piebald to a normal and all your offspring also will be normal. The only thing i can agree in is that every homozygous Morph is a Super animal for my collection :P:P:P....

Greets

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Not normal, but het for Pied. I think that's what Freakie was getting at.

I think you guys got it covered. Just to reiterate, super-super would be anything visual het, or co-dom if you prefer.

that's why in the first post i said pastel-enchi + pastel enchi.

technically, you guys are right. a pastel would be het for super pastel, so pastel het pied + pastel het pied would be a super super as well :gj: it's just that not many people call visual hets....well... hets

That super pewter is ugly as sin. :weirdface

It seems that there is such a thing as too much when it comes to ball pythons sometimes. It kind of reminds me of kids in grade school art class who insist on mixing all the paints together and get this disgusting brownish colour that doesn't really look like a whole lot.

I've had this same reaction to more than a few of these "genetic powerhouse" snakes now. I can't remember what the others were though as I found them so ugly that my brain forced the recipe for their genetics from my brain as unneeded fluff. :rolleyes:

whats the difference between a silver bullet and silver streak? pics will probably help

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Originally Posted by chago11

whats the difference between a silver bullet and silver streak? pics will probably help

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A silver bullet is a pastel super cinny and a silver streak is a super pastel black pastel (the cinnamon version is called sterling pastel).

Silver Bullet (they darken up a fair bit as they age)
http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm

Silver Streak
http://www.boabasement.com/silverstreak2.htm

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Originally Posted by RockingRoyals

And again i disagree. Only Homozygous Co-dominants are Supers.
Breed a Homozygous Piebald to a normal and all your offspring also will be normal. The only thing i can agree in is that every homozygous Morph is a Super animal for my collection :P:P:P....

Greets

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That's funny my Punnet square says it produces 100% Het offspring not normals. Funny thing is that when I do the same thing with a "SUPER" pastel I get the same results no normal offspring..

I know they are normal looking when the het form is recessive but getting hung up on a name like Super Limits peoples mindset when it comes to breeding.. "SUPER" is merely a way of telling customers the difference in the Het and Homo form of the mutation..So in truth a pastel is really a het Super Pastel.

It's all in a name is all..