Animal cruelty for sure.

While I understand it.....and I understand medical testing....I still don't like it. I just wish there was a different way to do it. I hate any animal being put through that. In an age where we can go into space for long periods of time. Have rockets that shoot bombs out of the sky..etc...etc. I just wish we could come up with something that could simulate as opposed to using the innocent so to speak. :tears:

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While I understand it.....and I understand medical testing....I still don't like it. I just wish there was a different way to do it. I hate any animal being put through that. In an age where we can go into space for long periods of time. Have rockets that shoot bombs out of the sky..etc...etc. I just wish we could come up with something that could simulate as opposed to using the innocent so to speak. :tears:

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Agreed

I've heard of things like this being done on a variaty of reptiles. :tears: I read somewhere, and I can't find the link now, that the Nile monitors that were being caught in Florida where being tested in the same way to see how far north "This plague" could spread. Plague...HA! The greatest "plague" this planet has ever seen in the human race....

Don't you think that aligning yourself in ANY way with peta is stupid?

I suppose if you actually have respect for them it would make sense but someone with the cranial capacity you constantly brag of really should know better.

I'm with you on the animal cruelty thing but come on neil, use your brain before you sensationalize.

Wow....

So its not ok to torture an animal and kill it, unless it suits your needs politically?

You guys need to get some help if that's all that it takes to say things are ok. Treating anything alive in this manner is wrong - these are basic rights of anything in the world. I step on bugs here and there, and I swat bee's when they're trying to sting me but I most definitely don't condone and never will an animal, person or otherwise being sacrificed just to prove a point one way or the other. You can EASILY scientifically with past evidence prove that these animals cannot survive these conditions - through autopsies, and through other methods from private owners and corpses found in the wild.

I don't know where this "heard of" article is gathered or quoted from but the entire thing seems preposterous and goober-ed up to begin with. If these are real scientists either someone grossly exaggerated the study or these are the same people who get on youtube in lab coats and tell you that the earth is young.

*gets off soap box*

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Didnt VPI do the same thing in Texas with a bunch of animals in outdoor enclosures?

I can only say this, the people performing this experiment down there were probably hired by a group to confirm or deny a theory. We obviously think its stupid because we KNOW that they will be killed by the cold.

Now, do you think that there are possibly ANY un-educated people down in Florida or across the US that KNOW that these snakes can survive colder temperatures like their native counterparts? All they gotta do is crawl in a hole right? WRONG.....

Wouldn't you find this a VITAL test to prove whether or not S373 or HR669 or HR2811 or any other bill that is brought out due to Florida problem, and a Florida problem ONLY?!? NOT a Federal issue?

Wouldnt you want the people trying to take away your animals to get REAL HARD PROOF that these snakes CANT survive colder temperatures above Florida, and due to the recent cold snap even survive in parts of Florida!?!?

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This wouldn't surprise BG if they did even though they would know the snakes would die for a fact. Hopefully they didn't.:taz:

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Don't you think that aligning yourself in ANY way with peta is stupid?

I suppose if you actually have respect for them it would make sense but someone with the cranial capacity you constantly brag of really should know better.

I'm with you on the animal cruelty thing but come on neil, use your brain before you sensationalize.

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Sorry Willy....BG forgot his emoticon. Obviously if you know BG's MO(you clearly don't but he knows Willy's) he was joking..... although....if they didn't picket they could be called hypocrites if we did call.

As far as "cranial capacity". If Big Gunns gave the real numbers, everyone else wouldn't have the "cranial capacity" to understand.:P:D

"sensationalize"????? Now why should we start doing that? Oh yeah.....that's what they're doing to us. It seems to be the only thing that works nowadays.:taz:

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"sensationalize"????? Now why should we start doing that? Oh yeah.....that's what they're doing to us. It seems to be the only thing that works nowadays.:taz:

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Killing puppies and blaming others worked pretty well until they got caught.

I suppose if the other side does it then your side should to. That seems to be what you're implying. I know you don't mean that but your superior intellect is confusing to those of us who are so far below that thresh hold of super human intelligence which you so ably embody.

Doing what they do doesn't make it right or the right thing to do.

I'm surprised you don't know that.

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Killing puppies and blaming others worked pretty well until they got caught.

I suppose if the other side does it then your side should to. That seems to be what you're implying. I know you don't mean that but your superior intellect is confusing to those of us who are so far below that thresh hold of super human intelligence which you so ably embody.

Doing what they do doesn't make it right or the right thing to do.

I'm surprised you don't know that.

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Yeah that's EXACTLY what BG was saying Willy. You'll try anything to make the fans upset with BG won't yah. BG is condoning puppy killing....maybe that will work. Somethings gotta work. Please let me have the spotlight back.:D Sorry Willy....you'll just have to wait until BG goes on another top secret mission.:P:D

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Yeah that's EXACTLY what BG was saying Willy. You'll try anything to make the fans upset with BG won't yah. BG is condoning puppy killing....maybe that will work. Somethings gotta work. Please let me have the spotlight back.:D Sorry Willy....you'll just have to wait until BG goes on another top secret mission.:P:D

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:rofl::rofl:

well..it WAS funny!:8:

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