PVC enclosures

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Originally Posted by MikeyP

One more thing, I'm not familiar with the radiant side heat, is that like a panel or more like a UTH style on the side??

Thanks for the help, its great to hear from people with experience on the issues :)

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Yes, its flexwatt ran down the side of the rack, under the bottom tub, and back up the other side.

My shortie is currently in a tub, but I've got my ball pythons in an AP cages, and I LOVE them! Heat and humidity are both very easy to control and maintain, they are easy to clean, they look great, and the BPs appreciate the security of 3 walls while they can still see what's going on. I can't wait until I move my BST into a T10 (which will hopefully be this spring)!

As for heat, I've heard mixed things about RHPs. I know plenty of people who rave about them, but I've also heard some negative reviews. I use flexwatt with a Johnsons' t'stat; as far as heating for PVCs goes, it's the cheapest, and it works just fine.

I know people said they have experienced sagging of the bottom. Has anyone experienced sagging with 4 ft one? either by animal plastics or the pro line? Also do the bottom of these have a lip on them so if you had aspen etc in there it will not wanna just fall out? Thanks!

Sorry, I've only been using AP cages for the past few months. I haven't noticed any sagging, but that doesn't say much.

With AP cages you can either get swinging or sliding glass(/plexiglas) doors. Either way, the cages come with a thing separating the sliding doors (if that's what you choose) and the inside of the cage. It's difficult to explain.

Here's a pic of my AP T10 (sliding glass doors).

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...l/DSC08185.jpg

So you could probably pile 3" or more of substrate without any getting in the sliding door tracks.

Sometimes called a litter dam, but gives structural integrity to the cage to keep it from changing shape...

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Originally Posted by MikeyP

I know people said they have experienced sagging of the bottom. Has anyone experienced sagging with 4 ft one? either by animal plastics or the pro line? Also do the bottom of these have a lip on them so if you had aspen etc in there it will not wanna just fall out? Thanks!

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Providing you have them on a level base - the tops.

I have seen warped bottoms on other people's APs - mine, however, have not. I have not seen sagging on Proline cages.

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Originally Posted by Tim Mead

Our cages are the old pvc neodesha's and they work well..When buying new we will most likely go with Ed Lilley's/ Pro line cages made from high density polyethelene,HDPE, an uncolored and less brittle plastic than pvc..Flexwatt for the heat which comes with the stack packs..Personal preference..

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Ed's cages are top notch...He doesn't quite get the shout-outs like he deserves, but the HDPE are rock solid and very fairly priced too...

I like the APs myself. I have two T10s and I plan on getting two more when I have enough saved up. My blood really loves his. Here's a pic.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...pant/012-6.jpg
If I had the money though, I would love some Sentec cages!

nice set-up Oroborous. I like those T10 cages

I have had a T10 for about 2 years now and it doesn't have any sagging. I would definitely recommend AP to others.