What is this ??

So my question, which is going to be the biggest question is how much did you pay for him?

If he is "double het for ghost" (whatever that means) then he should of had a fairly hefty price tag.... If you paid normal prices you get normal snakes. :gj:

A het is a het, meaning you cannot tell by looking at it. If you were not given instruction as to its genetic background then there is none. If you think there may be something different about the animal don't put a label on it. Breed it to find out, THEN label it.

And who cares who or where the animals came from. You have 5 snakes now, but if you get the new snake and it has any issues that number could drastically drop... back to ZERO. Quarantine is the safest way to introduce new members to a collection. RI and mites are the first things, but definitely not the worst things that are contracted from non-quarantined animals. BE SMART!

I'm in Toronto PM me the "respectable place" you got them from, maybe I can help you out

Hypo does seem to be one of those "recessive" mutations with co-dom tendency. I have a female het hypo with that bright clean look. Thing is if you really wanted to breed a het hypo male you could buy one pretty cheap now and know what it is 100%. But if you have the extra females and time by all means breed him and see what you get. My original het hypo male had that look and half his babies did including the now proven het hypo daughter.

A belly shot and a good head shot might also help to figure out if he is a known co-dominant like fire or vanilla.

if you got him from a respectable breeder, what did you pay? I imagine a double het ghost would be in the 750ish range, 50% possible dbl het... atleast 150ish i would assume and a normal is about 20ish. so that will give you your answer right there, if they are a respectable breeder like you said.

even if he doesn't prove to be anything he is still a really nice looking snake

Looks like a fire to me.

I know what it is.

It's HET for SUPER NORMAL:gj:

i agree.. fire or vanilla... belly + head shots would probably make it easier to identify

until u know for sure its a mighty fine dinkable normal :gj:

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Picked up this male today , i just had to have him he looks so stunning and different im wondering what he is het for , sorry about the bad photos but in photo one hes next to a normal female ,

if i had to guess i said reduce pattern and het caramel what are you're thoughts on him , thanks

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Well, he IS a nice reduced pattern animal. Not crazy reduced where all the pattern blends together but he is missing most of his alien eyes. Nice light coloration too.
But unless you know for sure (meant to be read as "unless the breeder sold you a definite het or double het, etc.") then ANY guess is just that....A GUESS. If you think you have something, the only way to tell for sure is to breed it out. Until then, he is a cool reduced pattern normal.
I like him and think he is cool enough to merit a back burner project. Get it done :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

Hypo does seem to be one of those "recessive" mutations with co-dom tendency. I have a female het hypo with that bright clean look. My original het hypo male had that look and half his babies did including the now proven het hypo daughter.

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After years of working with hypos, I starting thinking the same thing 3 or 4 years ago.
I think many of my hets (but not every single one) have a "look" to them and can easily be distinguished from a normal. The "look" falls on the subtle side of things but if you know what you are looking for then it can jump out at you.
Maybe hypos should be reclassified as incomplete dominant....but that is a whole different thread.....and an uphill battle to convince people of it;)

I don't know what to call inconsistently co-dominant mutations like hypo and piebald in ball pythons and green and granite in Burmese pythons. "Recessive with sporadic co-dominant tendencies" just doesn't have a ring to it. It's sort of like they didn't read the text book where they are supposed to pick a mutation type and stay with it! If they always or never showed in hets it would sure avoid a lot of argument among us keepers.