Corn snake morph identity?

That is one YELLOW snow!! She's absolutely amazing! The only other snows I've seen that had that much yellow have been caramel snows; i.e. homozygous for amel, anery, and caramel.

It's said that anery masks caramel, but in a lot of caramel snows they tend to have a lot more yellow than your average snow. I'd try to test her against something that has caramel in it just to see if that's the cause of the yellow. Though I suppose she could just be a fluke, but if I was a betting man, I'd wager that she was homozygous caramel.

As for your two other snakes, Casey hit the nail on the head. They're both anerys and not ghosts. The eyes are also too light to be charcoal on either one.

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Originally Posted by kc261

OK, let's see if I can manage to remember everything I wanted to say. :P

You said she's a garbage disposal. Just in case you don't know, corns can get obese, so be sure not to overfeed her.

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Oh, I know. :) The person we got her from fed her live rats since that's what he had on hand (Being that he mostly had large snakes) but we switched her back to one f/t mouse a week. For a garbage disposal I have my big ball python. :lol: I don't end up with refused meals often though.

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Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps

That is one YELLOW snow!! She's absolutely amazing! The only other snows I've seen that had that much yellow have been caramel snows; i.e. homozygous for amel, anery, and caramel.

It's said that anery masks caramel, but in a lot of caramel snows they tend to have a lot more yellow than your average snow. I'd try to test her against something that has caramel in it just to see if that's the cause of the yellow. Though I suppose she could just be a fluke, but if I was a betting man, I'd wager that she was homozygous caramel.

As for your two other snakes, Casey hit the nail on the head. They're both anerys and not ghosts. The eyes are also too light to be charcoal on either one.

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It's funny, the guy had been trying to find a new home for her for a bit and no one was really interested in her. :P I don't think corns are as popular where I am compared to the pythons.

I am a pretty big fan of caramels... Might try to pick one up this summer for the future. :P I'm just kind of clueless as to which combination makes what in corns. Is there any good reference websites out there?

Yep, I figured they were anerys but never hurts to ask. I got curious when I noticed the eye differences and the color difference (and the fact that one has the yellow, and the other doesn't.) but I figure it's all just normal variation.

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Originally Posted by Nevadamoon

I'm just kind of clueless as to which combination makes what in corns. Is there any good reference websites out there?

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Here you go: http://cornguide.com/

It's worth every penny if you really want to have a good reference for all of the genes/morphs and what makes what.

This is a pic of my yellow snow, although her exact genetics are unknown as well. She looks about what I'm used to being refered to as a yellow snow. Yours definately has more yellow than my girl. I'd for sure test her against a caramel when you can(or better yet a butter).

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...itout/ysg2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps

Here you go: http://cornguide.com/

It's worth every penny if you really want to have a good reference for all of the genes/morphs and what makes what.

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I've totally looked at that book before. The corn snake lady at my local reptile expo always has it on her. Definitely need to order my own.

chromeitout-
How old is your girl? I wonder if mine is just more yellow because of age. She's definitely a few shades darker/more yellow then that.


Okay, one more, I promise. (mostly because it's the last of my corns. :P Hey, it's not my fault I got them from someone who was getting out of snakes, and didn't really know what they were. >.>)

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/24be8346.jpg
This was Amelia in September. I figure she is an amel, but I'm not sure if there's a better name for it or if she could carry some genes that just aren't obvious to me. I hadn't really planned on breeding her, but I'm curious.

Since then she's gotten darker, mostly on the red areas. She's a bit over 3', not sure on age. Excuse the -fabulous- quality of the pictures, she loves being held and pretty much explores all over and hates being in one spot.

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/2d4596a6.jpg
Her belly has parts where it's white with a really nice distinct checkerboard, then it changes to this.

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/49c7bffd.jpg

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/af91b297.jpg

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/a1a1e00f.jpg

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/77525958.jpg
Up by her head/neck.

Sorry for being annoying. :bow:

Definitely NOT amelanistic.

She looks normal-ish, but with very minimal black borders around her saddles, which might mean she is hypo. Not sure if hypos can have that much black on their belly checkers or not.

The markings on the saddles are not really black though, at least, not yet. (The squares on her belly are black, though, so I guess that'd rule out amel anyway. :P) I always thought normals had more of a yellow-y orange as a base and then thick black borders around the saddles. As she's gotten older the borders on the saddles have been darkening, but she's never had distinctively lined saddles.

Normals have a WIDE variation in color and look to them. Yours is just a normal. It is quite possible she is carrying hets though. Amel, anery, and hypo are all fairly common in the gene pool.

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Originally Posted by Nevadamoon

chromeitout-
How old is your girl? I wonder if mine is just more yellow because of age. She's definitely a few shades darker/more yellow then that.

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My girl is an 06.
Don't rule out hypo just yet on the one you just posted. These are pics of my deceased "hypo" male. Well he's supposed to be hypo, and I do have some hatchlings from him to prove it next year. Check out his belly.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...rns/Blaze2.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...rns/Blaze8.jpg

Nevada moon.

What you have there are a snow, possibly carrying another gene, an anery, and a hypo (definately not an amel.)

My advice to you would be to try breeding your snow to a butter and see what you get.