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Brittle scales?

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  • 02-06-2010, 11:46 PM
    Joey'D
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I am pretty sure this is just how their belly scales are, especially when they get older. The belly scales just kind of lift up a little bit.

    I am almost certain what you are describing is a perfectly normal thing for belly scales to do.

    Well then i would ask if this is normal for a younger Ball as well.
    mine is showing the same symptoms and he is a bit over a year old.

    when i first started to read this, the first thing that comes to mind is that you (Mr.S) as well as i, are in canada.
    maybe it has to do with the extra dry heat we have to use in the winter for our apt. or house?

    My Ball also had a few cracked scales in the middle of his belly, i suspected he was harming himself on some plastic leaves i got.
    he has a tendency to climb, and wrap himself tightly around things, i think he may have cut himself on the branch of the leaves, so i have since taken them out, applied polysporin and he is showing signs of healing.

    another thing is he has not eaten in almost 2 months now (ever since i brought a female home) and he seems smaller, so i dont see him shedding anytime soon (boy i hope he does)

    anyone have any take on this?
  • 02-06-2010, 11:50 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Do you have the two snakes housed together? That would explain the climbing on leaves and not eating. Sounds like the little one is stressed out.

    I don't think you understood what I meant. Their belly scales and side scales are flexible and can lift up and catch on fabric and substrate and stuff.
  • 02-07-2010, 02:34 PM
    Joey'D
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    Do you have the two snakes housed together? That would explain the climbing on leaves and not eating. Sounds like the little one is stressed out.

    I don't think you understood what I meant. Their belly scales and side scales are flexible and can lift up and catch on fabric and substrate and stuff.

    Well, when you say housed together, do you mean same tank?
    no, they are in separate tanks, in the same room, but separate enclosures.

    The little one is a 6 month old baby girl, they 1.5 yr old is the male.

    The female is eating once every 6 days, i finally got her on a regular eating cycle (wouldnt eat for 3 weeks when i first got her) but the male has no interest in food since bringing the female home.

    the females scales are fine, however she did cut her belly in the first month, and it healed just fine.

    what i understood from your first post i quoted was, when balls get older, their scales tend to just catch on to things, as i get.
    but my question had to do with the fact that my male is still very young, and his scales seem flimsy as well.

    could it be because he has not eaten, and may have shrank in size?
    would his scales be overgrown for his body size now? and could that be the cause of what we are seeing?

    thanks for your time, hope your enjoying the weekend :gj:
  • 02-07-2010, 02:37 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joey'D View Post
    Well, when you say housed together, do you mean same tank?
    no, they are in separate tanks, in the same room, but separate enclosures.

    The little one is a 6 month old baby girl, they 1.5 yr old is the male.

    The female is eating once every 6 days, i finally got her on a regular eating cycle (wouldnt eat for 3 weeks when i first got her) but the male has no interest in food since bringing the female home.

    the females scales are fine, however she did cut her belly in the first month, and it healed just fine.

    what i understood from your first post i quoted was, when balls get older, their scales tend to just catch on to things, as i get.
    but my question had to do with the fact that my male is still very young, and his scales seem flimsy as well.

    could it be because he has not eaten, and may have shrank in size?
    would his scales be overgrown for his body size now? and could that be the cause of what we are seeing?

    thanks for your time, hope your enjoying the weekend :gj:

    1.5 years old is not young. My 1.5 year olds have scales that catch very easily.

    He very well might have lost some weight. I would go out and buy a kitchen scale so you can track his weight and see how much he actually is loosing. Although 2 months is not a very long time.


    When you say he had cracked scales on his belly, are you sure you weren't just looking at his belly button?
  • 02-08-2010, 07:13 PM
    Joey'D
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Snakes have belly Buttons?:confused:

    ok, so he isnt that young, the scale catching is normal for mine at least, but im confused on the belly button part
  • 02-08-2010, 07:22 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joey'D View Post
    Snakes have belly Buttons?:confused:

    ok, so he isnt that young, the scale catching is normal for mine at least, but im confused on the belly button part

    On their bellys, about 2/3rds of the way down there should be slit right down the middle about an inch long. That is where their umbilical cord connects to them when they are in the egg. It is what provides nutrients to the developing snake.
  • 02-08-2010, 07:23 PM
    dr del
    Re: Brittle scales?
    Hi,

    Yeppers - it's where they were attached to the yolk inside the egg.

    There are some good pics of it in the first post in this thread.

    And you can see it just to the right of the neck in this picture I took of one of my hatchlings - she hatched with a bit of umbilicus still attatched and it freaked me out so I took pictures.

    http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/35/gooballs2.jpg


    dr del
  • 02-08-2010, 11:00 PM
    Joey'D
    Re: Brittle scales?
    wow, love learning new things!
    the pic Del shows, looks like the cut my baby girl had, i thought she cut herself, but that is exactly where and how the cut looks.
    as for the male, he has no signs of anything like that from what i can see?

    ill try and snap a few pics, but i have no idea where the charger for my camera is.


    thanks all:salute:
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