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  • 01-27-2010, 09:26 PM
    dr del
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Hi,

    The shed thing is odd - I mean if you think about it, since they shed from head to tail, every part of the shed it is trying to get over the bump was loose enough for whatever caused the bump to get in there in the first place. :confused:


    dr del
  • 01-27-2010, 09:35 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Well I have seen 2 different snakes need serious attention when the snake shed and it rolled down and formed a knot around the food lump. Take the advice or don't, you will see a post about someone crying '' how did this happen '' sooner or later, just trying to help. See this site www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard the link of when things go bad, with the umbilical cord suffocated 2 different snkaes, same idea. If it happens to even 1 snake and can be avoided, it is 1 too many imo

    i dont know what kind of shed your snakes have but when my snakes shed with or with out a lump in their belly it just slides right off even if it were to "get stuck" on the lump the shed is very brittle and would just break.
  • 01-27-2010, 09:41 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    The shed thing is odd - I mean if you think about it, since they shed from head to tail, every part of the shed it is trying to get over the bump was loose enough for whatever caused the bump to get in there in the first place. :confused:


    dr del

    Ideally yes, but sometimes snakes shed comes of like rolling down pantyhose. and the snakes mid section gets wider toward the middle so the skin will get tighter if there is a food lump and might not be able to pass. Anyway there is also mention of this in VPI book, I don't think they would waste time talking about it if it never happens.
  • 01-27-2010, 09:52 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Well I have seen 2 different snakes need serious attention when the snake shed and it rolled down and formed a knot around the food lump. Take the advice or don't, you will see a post about someone crying '' how did this happen '' sooner or later, just trying to help. See this site www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard the link of when things go bad, with the umbilical cord suffocated 2 different snkaes, same idea. If it happens to even 1 snake and can be avoided, it is 1 too many imo

    If you are feeding something that large that their skin can get stuck around it then you have other issues. And just incase you never noticed their skin is rather loose during shedding it in fact stretches. Now I am not saying that you have not seen that happen before but I just cannot see how it would cause a problem they arent going to be moving around and trying to shed while digesting anyways. And as stated before if you did have one try to shed then the skin would either tear or peal right off over the lump.
  • 01-27-2010, 09:56 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Ideally yes, but sometimes snakes shed comes of like rolling down pantyhose. and the snakes mid section gets wider toward the middle so the skin will get tighter if there is a food lump and might not be able to pass. Anyway there is also mention of this in VPI book, I don't think they would waste time talking about it if it never happens.

    Can u share where in the book it mentions this I am intrigued by this Thanks.
  • 01-27-2010, 10:57 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sg1trogdor View Post
    Can u share where in the book it mentions this I am intrigued by this Thanks.

    I apologize, I misspoke previously when I said I saw this in a VPI book. I actually saw it in a book from John Berry who if people don't know who he is, has one of the better morph books on BP called Designer Morphs.He is a licensed herpetologist and a legend in the industry. This is the direct quote

    Shedding:
    Most, but not all ball pythons will go off their food while they are getting ready to shed. This is normal. Some ball pythons however can be so accustomed to feeding that they will still take food if offered to them while in shed. This is not a good practice. If their dry shed skin rolls down their bodies and gets caught up on the food item in their belly you can have a problem. If this were to go unnoticed the dry tight skin roll around them could damage your snake. Wait until they have shed and then feed them.
  • 01-28-2010, 11:39 PM
    punisher_reborn
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    I apologize, I misspoke previously when I said I saw this in a VPI book. I actually saw it in a book from John Berry who if people don't know who he is, has one of the better morph books on BP called Designer Morphs.He is a licensed herpetologist and a legend in the industry. This is the direct quote

    Shedding:
    Most, but not all ball pythons will go off their food while they are getting ready to shed. This is normal. Some ball pythons however can be so accustomed to feeding that they will still take food if offered to them while in shed. This is not a good practice. If their dry shed skin rolls down their bodies and gets caught up on the food item in their belly you can have a problem. If this were to go unnoticed the dry tight skin roll around them could damage your snake. Wait until they have shed and then feed them.

    Okay...1st of all, all I wanted to do was show a pic of my BP eating, thought it was a cool & funny pic.
    2nd of all, when my BP is in shed his humidity is at 70% - 80% so there is no chance of a dry shed. I can only see this being a problem if a snake is shedding in a dry environment and eating a large meal. In the pic he is eating a pinky and I usually feed him pups or bigger. I chose to feed him a pinky because he was in shed and has NEVER turned down a meal.
    I do however appreciate everybody's comments and concerns.:D
  • 01-29-2010, 01:31 AM
    PyroPython
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    I love feeding pics where the prey looks like it could be trying to say something.
    There should be a caption contest for pics like that.
  • 01-30-2010, 10:03 AM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by punisher_reborn View Post
    Okay...1st of all, all I wanted to do was show a pic of my BP eating, thought it was a cool & funny pic.
    2nd of all, when my BP is in shed his humidity is at 70% - 80% so there is no chance of a dry shed. I can only see this being a problem if a snake is shedding in a dry environment and eating a large meal. In the pic he is eating a pinky and I usually feed him pups or bigger. I chose to feed him a pinky because he was in shed and has NEVER turned down a meal.
    I do however appreciate everybody's comments and concerns.:D

    Sorry bud, just tried to pass along some advice like everyone else on this forum... didn't realize it would get such an overreaction. :tears:
  • 01-30-2010, 10:23 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: his name is PIGGY
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Sorry bud, just tried to pass along some advice like everyone else on this forum... didn't realize it would get such an overreaction. :tears:

    I dont think its an over reaction, were all just saying its highly improvable that that would happen. One thing is that the food prey should not be so big that the shed can get stuck on it, and if it is you should lower the size of the prey.
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