Banded Morhps ???

I have three lines of genetic bandeds (Tigers). One of our lines is the European line(link was already posted) that's Stephan Broghammer's line of Tigers. The other line is nothing special they are genetic as they pass on their banding but it's nothing to write home about. The third line was proved co-dom by Connie @pythonica(now Toronto Python Gurus) back in 2007. The interesting part is their is a Super form, we called this line the Diesels I will post you links to other threads about them and to our website to give you more info on them.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=111041

http://torontopythongurus.webs.com/exclusivemorphs.htm

Based on the pictures it looks most like our Oscar Banded line, it's not as clean as the other bandeds but they have that blushing along the spine like yours. Stephan's line (Banana Tiger)is a little more yellow and the Diesels are super clean no freckles or dots in the banding, yours have freckles and dots in the banding, still a nice looking snake and the best way to find out if it is genetic is to prove it out ;)

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Originally Posted by Toronto Python Gurus

Based on the pictures it looks most like our Oscar Banded line, it's not as clean as the other bandeds. Stephan's line (Banana Tiger)is a little more yellow and the Diesels are super clean no freckles or dots in the banding, yours have freckles and dots in the banded, still a nice looking snake and the best way to find out if it is genetic is to prove it out ;)

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Alright thank you soo much for your help!
I remember connie showing me one the "bandeds" (the one shown in thread) offspring. I think she said it was an orange ghost. Im not 100% sure about that though but the offspring was very light coloured brown. Almost an orange colour.

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Originally Posted by A.S_Reptillions

Alright thank you soo much for your help!
I remember connie showing me one the "bandeds" (the one shown in thread) offspring. I think she said it was an orange ghost. Im not 100% sure about that though but the offspring was very light coloured brown. Almost an orange colour.

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The orange is the PD line it's on the website too, we do have some Diesel Het Ghost Hypos and some Diesel Het Albinos but they are still young . . .no problem with the help, let me know how the breeding season goes and what she produces ;)

If I'm not mistaken Casey Lazik, of reptilia.com, in Washington State, has a line of genetic banded which he calls "Lazik Tigers". Though as I understand, he hasn't quite proved out all the genetics yet.

http://reptilia.com/index.php?option...d=33&Itemid=30

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I wasn't aware there was a genetic banded morph, thought it was one of the many patterns normals come in.

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I have a Jolliff line tiger (banded animal). My male also produced one tiger female this past season, and the others were extremely busy patterned. The tiger stuck out like the black sheep in the family.

Jolliff has proven his line genetic. See the thread that Derek posted below.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Its genetic in the way that it can be passed to babies just like any pattern can, but not all the babies would look like that so it is not genetic in the sense that it can be replicated consistantly with every breeding and every baby (if 2 "banded" were bred together)

I think the only truly banded morphs are the womaballs and tiger (desert x enchi) IMO

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Enchi's by themselves are banded. And there are some genetic bandeds (tigers) of different lines.

I also have a non-genetic banded female who throws busy patterned babies. She CH, and not from a proven line of genetic tigers.

The tigers (not to be confused with the desert/enchi tigers) CAN be replicated consistently, and at least the Jolliff line is at least dominant (similar to a pinstripe) in that it throws tigers and normals.

Both Zaphod and his daughter (I need a name) have a different looking "texture" to their color than normals do as well. They're lighter colored with a "soft" look to them.

Wow, I didn't know those other tigers were genetic. Thats pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Bleepr

If I'm not mistaken Casey Lazik, of reptilia.com, in Washington State, has a line of genetic banded which he calls "Lazik Tigers". Though as I understand, he hasn't quite proved out all the genetics yet.

http://reptilia.com/index.php?option...d=33&Itemid=30

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You're correct, he's not totally sure whether they are codom or dom. It'll be my job to figure that out b/c I have his Tiger line adult breeders and some offspring.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=105549

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

Wow, I didn't know those other tigers were genetic. Thats pretty cool.

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The Diesel line I have is very clean and soft looking aswell, they have clear cream coloured bellys too . . . i crossed them with some other co-doms this season hoping to produce some nice mixes.:)

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Originally Posted by Toronto Python Gurus

The Diesel line I have is very clean and soft looking aswell, they have clear cream coloured bellys too . . . i crossed them with some other co-doms this season hoping to produce some nice mixes.:)

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Mike, I really like what you're working with. I need to go look at yours some more - but I've noticed with the two that I have, their eye stripe also gets wider towards the back of the head, and sort of rounds up slightly. Have you noticed that with yours? Mine also have a cream colored bellies, with "some" black in there, but not much.