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  • 01-21-2010, 01:12 AM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki View Post
    To put it simply, Politicians deciding our future is bad ... USFWS conducting a process designed to equally consider all factors and incorporate external input is good.


    -adam

    While I don't want to see anything banned, I will take, at least a partial, fair chance from USFWS over a political railroading any day. This definitely is not a won battle. This is just the momentum picking up on our side
  • 01-21-2010, 01:22 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsschrei View Post
    I did not see this as a favorable press release.

    I think that is probably because you're not familiar with the regulatory processes for listing injurious species.

    The USFWS service is going to do what they should have been doing all alone. The USFWS rule process allows for far more solutions to be offered than just a out right ban on import or interstate transport. Other regulatory options will be on the table if one or more of the nine species is found to be injurious. Also, the findings of the USGS risk assessment will be debated among scientists instead of politicians.

    PIJAC and USARK both see this as extremely favorable and I hope that you will too. This is not a win by any means, but it's the best news we've had in a while.

    -adam
  • 01-21-2010, 02:55 AM
    jsschrei
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    I hope you are right. Actually, I pray for that.

    I would love to see scientific process taken seriously by the government.

    Hoping for the best......
  • 01-21-2010, 03:52 PM
    Eventide
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Okay, I get it now.

    Hmm, don't know if I'd call this "good," but it's definitely "better." Though, it is very good this is starting to go through the proper channels; hopefully, this will help squash the whole "let's make it easier to ban whatever we want" bill that the FL politicians are working on....
  • 01-21-2010, 04:59 PM
    Jyson
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki View Post
    The USFWS service is going to do what they should have been doing all alone. The USFWS rule process allows for far more solutions to be offered than just a out right ban on import or interstate transport. Other regulatory options will be on the table if one or more of the nine species is found to be injurious. Also, the findings of the USGS risk assessment will be debated among scientists instead of politicians.

    I have a question about the USGS Risk Assessment debate. Will the scientists debating the assessment be chosen to debate it, or is it more of a volunteer thing? Because there are good ones and there are bad ones.

    I do see this as a great step in the right direction, and it does make me hopeful for our future, however I can't help but wonder if there is an unforeseen loop hole that can screw us over.
  • 01-21-2010, 07:07 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jyson View Post
    Will the scientists debating the assessment be chosen to debate it, or is it more of a volunteer thing?

    The USFWS will have to consider scientific input from PIJAC, USARK, and others that refutes the findings of the USGS risk assessment. The scientists will be on our side, and they will be among the best in the world.

    -adam
  • 01-21-2010, 08:36 PM
    Fallguy
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    Thank you Adam, for clarifying this. Some days I am not very smart.

    I agree that this is not a win, yet, but at least a step in the right direction.

    For once I am on the side of science.:please:
  • 01-22-2010, 09:04 AM
    nixer
    Re: Good News Regarding S373/HR2811
    this is slightly good, but it still keeps the process within crooked hands.

    just who do you think put salazar into place
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