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  • 01-18-2010, 10:58 PM
    wilomn
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post

    If by flipper you mean arrogant asswipe, like many who accuse others of filpping, no

    Do you have a problem with that?
  • 01-18-2010, 11:00 PM
    2kdime
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    I'd just rather not do business with an animal flipper.




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    If by flipper you mean arrogant asswipe, like many who accuse others of filpping, no

    Do you have a problem with that?

  • 01-18-2010, 11:04 PM
    wilomn
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    I'd just rather not do business with an animal flipper.

    Who do you buy groceries from?

    Do you have a car?

    Do you wear clothes?

    Are each of those items produced by the person you purchase them from?

    If not, you are a hypocrite.
  • 01-18-2010, 11:05 PM
    herper55
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    I would not buy from him cause of the post from fuana show above.
    I have never bought from him. Just my thoughts.
  • 01-18-2010, 11:10 PM
    2kdime
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Your wasting your time trying to get me fired up man.

    When it comes to living animals, I'd rather spend my hard earned money with the actual breeder.

    In the case of flippers, the risk of getting in an infected or sick animal of some sort drastically increases.







    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Who do you buy groceries from?

    Do you have a car?

    Do you wear clothes?

    Are each of those items produced by the person you purchase them from?

    If not, you are a hypocrite.

  • 01-18-2010, 11:32 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    I'd just rather not do business with an animal flipper.

    Better do your research then cause I know of quite a few people that would classify as "Flippers" that many people have no problem over looking. Many of them sell healthy quality cutting edge animals..
  • 01-18-2010, 11:43 PM
    wilomn
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Your wasting your time trying to get me fired up man.

    When it comes to living animals, I'd rather spend my hard earned money with the actual breeder.

    In the case of flippers, the risk of getting in an infected or sick animal of some sort drastically increases.

    Getting you worked up....you give yourself too much credit.

    A mistake was made. A mistake was rectified to the satisfaction of all involved.

    No one at outback made those geckos. They are not responsible for them nor the condition they are in. They seem to have someone who does rehab and then gives them to good homes. This is a problem why?

    I've been in the reptile business for many years. I cannot number the times someone has offered me substandard animals along with good ones, sometimes without letting me know I was getting them until I had received a shipment.

    Do any of you have an idea of the number of shipments outback sends out? Do you suppose a guy might grab the wrong container of animals and send it to the wrong person? Do you suppose a bad guy would then make it right, acknowledge it publicly, and not get his panties wadded up?

    There is almost always NO quarantine in the wholesale world. If you're selling a 15 dollar gecko, you can't isolate it for 60 days and still make a profit. THAT'S why it's a 15 dollar gecko. YOU, the buyer, take a chance but save money. It's the risk you take.

    How many good sales has Josh made? How many of us have said he's a good guy? Quite a few. How many say otherwise? Not many.

    I'd still buy from Josh. I may toy with mike since he likes words, but he works with Josh so I wouldn't hurt him too badly.

    You guys on high horses are going to make me laugh long and loud when you fall. And have no fear, fall you will and laughing will I be.
  • 01-19-2010, 12:26 AM
    gwood267
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    I'd just rather not do business with an animal flipper.

    if it weren't for the "animal flippers" there would be no herp industy!
  • 01-19-2010, 01:12 PM
    pvdgod
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    I've purchased 2 snakes from Josh and Ian recently and have nothing but good things to say about them. They are one of my favorite BP breeders. However i would not purchase an animal they received in a trade or whatever, i will only buy animals they produced themselves. I think Josh is great and i dont know what this flipper business is all about, almost every major breeder either trades or buys animals they didnt produce. Greg Graziani built up most of his collection this way. I like outback because they are big enough to be major players in the biz (panda pied, Ian's black pastel line) but not so big as to ignore your emails (like Graziani does...prolly cuz im not looking to buy a 10,000 snake). I like Outbacks quality, service, and they are willing to work with you and give you a great (reasonable) price.
  • 01-19-2010, 01:15 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: does outback reptiles have a good reputation?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gwood267 View Post
    if it weren't for the "animal flippers" there would be no herp industy!

    Yes there would. Breeders would sell their own snakes to customers instead of flippers.
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