Oppose Python Ban Campaign!!! Let's Get Rocking!!!!

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Originally Posted by nixer

just to throw this out there he has yet to do anything he promised in his campaign :weirdface

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But at least we can say we contacted him and if he doesnt follow through with anything he promised it will just be one more thing to discredit him.

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Originally Posted by nixer

just to throw this out there he has yet to do anything he promised in his campaign :weirdface

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This is different from any politician HOW?

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

This is different from any politician HOW?

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He said it would take years for most of these things, so it's completely beyond me why anyone thinks he could magically accomplish it in less than one. He certainly didn't promise he could bend time and space. Lay off, people--give the man a chance. Do you think YOU could fix it all in this time span? If so, I'd be very curious as to how you would go about it, but that would be better stated in General Discussion, along with the rest of the partisan comments.

If this actually comes to his attention, we can just hope he'll see it reasonably. The trick is actually bringing it to his attention. We have to make enough noise to be heard above the sea of mail he's already getting on other issues. Since people are so histrionic over health care, that makes things harder for issues like this to be noticed.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

This is different from any politician HOW?

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Bingo!

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I'm going to do this, of course, but I would still like to know if the bill specifically says "genus python" or not. The Reptile Nation is going to look really stupid if this is the case because the genus python contains only seven species, not 40+.

EDIT: S373 and HR2811 both say, "To amend title 18, United States Code, to include constrictor snakes of the species Python genera as an injurious animal." Wow. Species Python genera? What does that even mean?!

As I understand it, it says (rather unintelligently):

Species: Python genera
This may indeed be taken to mean all members of genus Python, which includes the following:

P. anchietae: Angolan Python
P. curtus: Short-tailed python (blood pythons)
P. molurus: Indian Python (Burmese python)
P. regius: Ball Python
P. reticulatus: Reticulated python
P. sebae: African rock python
P. timoriensis: Timor python

That's 3 species of giant snakes, plus 2 of the most popularly bred snakes in the entire hobby, and one up-and-coming popular snake (the Angolan python).
The Timor python is another small python that is available in the hobby but doesn't seem to have really 'caught on' much yet.

So, that is only 7 species. So why mention 40? Because there is no such thing as species: Python genera. It's incorrect nomenclature.

"To further compound the proposed listing, it lumps numerous species of Pythons into inaccurate taxonomic nomenclature by referring to "Python genera" rather than referencing a specific species. In short, it is not clear if only "pythons" of the genus Python would be listed or every snake commonly referred to as a python would fall under the umbrella of taxonomic confusion."
--from PIJAC.

This type of confusion leads to law enforcement being able to interpret the law however it suits them at the moment.

Yep, exactly. And those are my fears for both pythons and boas.

I think we should mention this in our letters. I mean, this is high school biology stuff. The bill itself shows that these people don't even know what they're trying to ban. Should people be able to create or vote on bills involving subjects they clearly know nothing about? Definitely not.

Done!!!

The problome with this issue and all others in our government is not just the politicians, but the government function entirely. Don't get me wrong, our Gov is better then most, but still horrible and something we should not settle for. Until Americans wake up and regain there courage however, we will continue to be hindered and enslaved by our deformed, self mutilating gov.

About our Pres. first thing first, the president has less power then most think. Corporations have more sway over congress, the true masters of the functions that shape our gov, which gives them a stronger influence then the Press. However, I do remember President Obama saying he wanted to focus on Afghanistan , which he is acting on by sending something like 30 thousand more troops to. Furthermore, I remember hearing him speak of his desire to change our health care system, which he has been working on. He will be speaking at Copenhagen on the matter of Global Warming , which was another thing he said we wanted to focus on during his campaign. So he is acting on what he said he would. If anyone believes a politian will keep all, or any of his promises however, I fill sorry for them. Minds change and even if the polititian tries there are some walls and forces that no one, even the President, can overcome ( like Giant corporations).

Done. This took all of two minutes so no excuses people!

Ive talked to many people on the phone and not one has said this ban will stop the interstate or breeding of pythons. This ban is to top ALL importing or shipping into the United States. I have searched hard online on .gov sites and those too only say Importing into the US, nothing about shipping within the States.


I spent good 30 mins on phone with Candice Miller of Michigan and she too has confirmed this ban is for Importing/shipping into the United States.