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Lesser X Mojo ???

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  • 11-22-2009, 03:58 PM
    trott
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    I have an old( cell phone) pic of my lesser x mojo in my pic section. The lesser really cleans up the white. Shes pretty pure and about 600 g now. i have a breeder lesser male that shes lined up for. Should produce lessers, mojos and bels.
  • 11-22-2009, 04:20 PM
    Sloanreptiles
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Heres an example of a Lesser X Mojave Lucy. We hatched out three of them this year. The one pictured is pure white, he is in shed in the pic.
    http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ythons/BEL.jpg
  • 11-23-2009, 12:29 AM
    MarkS
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I think your order might be off

    russo came first but mojave came in 2000 and lesser came in 2001, phantoms not until 2005. im pretty sure they had super lesser and mojos and combos b4 2005. tho i can't find anything that really states it

    I'm pretty sure about the 1st two. I know that Ralph created a Blue Eyed Leucistic by crossing his Original lesser male with his original Phantom female long before there were super lessers. There were other white snakes created before that, but those were Ivories, not BEL's
  • 11-23-2009, 01:59 AM
    Oxylepy
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    From the RDR website:

    Quote:

    In the 2002 Breeding Season I was very fortunate enough to hatch a Blue Eyed Leucistic Ball Python from 2 Normal appearing Ball Pythons. I have truly been blessed with this very rare and magnificent creature. The Blue eyes almost look through you. Leucism is the rarest color morph in all reptiles ( Less than 1 in 10,000 ). This Project will occupy most of my time for the next few years.

    Upper text by Vin Russo
    Quote:

    Below text by Ralphie.......

    I produced 2.1 "Blue Eyed Lucy" in 2003 from breeding a Lesser Platty male to a Phantom female..........then in 2004 I produced 0.2 lucy from the same breeding ( Lesser x Phantom ) and 0.3 from breeding "Platty Daddy" to two of his Lesser Platty daughters.............the lucys from the Lesser x Phantom have blue eyes and a very faint "off white" broken dorsal stripe down the spine.............the lucys from Platty Daddy x Lesser are blue eyed, pure white with ZERO dorsal markings............the "whitest" Lucy on the planet to date!!! ( Platty x Lesser )
    Source: http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...y_blue_eye.asp

    As this is '02, '03, '04 I have fair certainty that these would be the first snakes produced like this.
  • 11-23-2009, 12:27 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Here is a post from the kingsnake archives where Greg Graziani shows his new Blue Eyed Leucistic created from combining a Het Russo X Mojave. Since he mentions the Lesser X Mojave BEL in the post I'm assuming that it happened the season before, and like I said I'm pretty sure it was Morph King reptiles that did it. This post was dated July 22 2005 so the mojave X lesser BEL would have been in 2004 I believe.

    http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...51200&key=2005
  • 11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Just found this entry in Ralphs Journal from July 27, 2004 This was before Ralph produced the first Lesser X Lesser Blue Eyed Leucistics, so I guess that does make them 3rd.

    Quote:

    Well the waiting is over.............Morph Kings produced two blue eyed lucys from their Lesser Platty x Mojave clutch.............2 lucy, 3 lesser and 2 mojave...........
    Here is a link to the picture.

    http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...s/mk_lucys.jpg
  • 11-23-2009, 05:44 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    As this is '02, '03, '04 I have fair certainty that these would be the first snakes produced like this.


    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...s/phantom.html

    according to nerd it was 2005...?
  • 11-23-2009, 05:49 PM
    trott
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Here's some photos and pretty much all Leucistics are represented. Lesser x mojave is down on the right.


    http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...lpythonsmorphs
  • 11-23-2009, 07:31 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post

    I think that's the year that Ralph produced the first SUPER phantom. Which is not a blue eyed leucistic.
  • 11-23-2009, 09:21 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Lesser X Mojo ???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    I think that's the year that Ralph produced the first SUPER phantom. Which is not a blue eyed leucistic.

    NERD needs to be a little more clear with the years...
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