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  • 11-10-2009, 03:47 AM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Imabur. View Post
    What's the difference between feeding in the housing that you keep your bp and a seperate tub or whatever for feeding..is there a reason for doing that? I feel like I've heard it on here somewhere before...

    Ya, I'm sure he'll be fine, just having new owner nerves is all.

    It's fine to feed in their enclosure, There is a big misconception that feeding inside the enclosure leads to the snake associating your hand with food.
  • 11-10-2009, 06:35 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    Freezing destroys some vitamins, such as thiamine. This is a fact that should not be ignored--it's real. It does not appear that captive snakes suffer any noticeable deficiencies from feeding exclusively on FT rodents--at least none that have ever been noticed.

    If you have any concerns about it at all, dip the FT rodents' rumps in a bit of a reptile vitamin mix containing thiamine, and call it good.

    The benefits of killing any potential parasites, and having a ready stock of food on hand at all times, outweighs any trouble that might result from freezing the prey.

    PK rodents are really safe to feed. Snakes find them pretty enticing, so long as they are warm, and there's no worries about a bite. Parasite risk is still there, though.

    Live rodents are easy to feed--put them in the bin, and let the snake do all the work. Risk of bites always exists, and there's a parasite risk as well. Don't fret over it--if the snake is bitten, apply a bit of betadine--they will most likely be just fine.

    I prefer feeding FT, for many reasons.
  • 11-10-2009, 08:04 AM
    rabernet
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    Actually, parasite risk from live is very low, to non-existent according to Dr. Scott Stahl. In fact, a parasite that prefers an endothermic environment is not going to find an ectothermic one to be a good host. That's why parasites are species specific.

    I've been feeding live for over 5 years with no parasite transmission and no more than maybe 5 insignificant scratches to my collection in that time.

    Here's Dr. Stahl's Reptile Radio show:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/reptile...ile-Veterinary
  • 11-10-2009, 09:29 AM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    We went from F/T to live and I have to say.....Live all the way!!! It is so much easier for us and plus I get to go to the shop and pick them out each week. Which going to the reptile store is a fun time for me. Anyways....to me it is easier my snakes seem to LOVE it.

    As for the risk...I did have a mouse bite one of my snakes. Did not hurt the snake at all or leave a mark. However now we stun them right before. There is another thread on that with some very passionate views. I don't want to get that going again....just look it up to get some ideas. There was also some interesting information in regards to F/T and their nails (apparently it is harder after being frozen). Now I did not confirm this and do not know if this is true but it does seem to make sense to me.

    Feeding in the enclosure...I would recommend it! Less stress on the snake and no they do not get more aggresive. Although I have to say....I think my normal knows when it is Saturday (her feeding day).
  • 11-11-2009, 09:46 AM
    DaveR
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    I am also new to keeping ball pythons, and I was a bit worried as well about the feeding procedures when I first got my new addition home. I decided to feed my BP freshly killed prey, for all of the same reasons others do here on the forum.

    I rescued my BP from kijiji, and not only was she/he not cared for, but I have found some scaring on top of her head and a bit down her neck. This scaring was most likely caused by live prey, but I am not 100%.

    I ensure the prey is dead before offering it to her/him, I do not want a rat to wake up after being stunned. My process for killing the rat is as such: I take the rat out of its travel box and place it in the feeding tub, allowing the rat to spread it's scent around. While the rat is in there I take my snake out and hold her while I spot clean/change water in her tank. Then I open her feeding tub, take the rat out, wipe out any rat feces, and place the snake in and close the lid again. Then I place the rat in a bag and with a swift firm swing I take it off the tile floor (concrete under the tile). This is a quick death for the rat, and I find it quite humane considering the alternative. I have not had a rat only get hurt nor have I had to swing twice. I take it out of the bag, check to ensure there is no feces on the rat from traveling home in that small box or from the sack, and offer it to my snake. She has not taken longer than 15 seconds to strike, and I hope things stay this way. But she/he is a BP, who knows what I am in store for with feeding.

    Like I said, I am new to this as well and Im not to sure how much help I can give, but I hope you find the way that is best for you and your snake. Good luck with your feeding!

    Cheers
  • 11-11-2009, 10:25 PM
    Imabur.
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    I fed my BP live last night for the first time. And he completely annihilated that mouse lol. He struck him right on the mouth holding it's jaw shut and just strangled him. He seemed more interested in the live then the fresh-killed, also. So thanks for convincing me it's safe guys, I'm sure from now on he'll be a great eater. =D
  • 11-11-2009, 10:46 PM
    Danounet
    Re: nervous about live feeding
    As long as the prey is the right size, your snake will have a "killer time." Dont over stimate your snake though... When you start dealing with bigger rats be very careful about the size of the rat and the snake.

    I have to say though, Rat pups and weaned Rats I find that they are MUCH safer than adult mice. Small rats are not usualy a problem either, I find only when you start getting to the medium and up larger size rats it becomes a more troublesome matter.
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