Caramels - Are they worth purchasing?

As far as I know, all caramels are prone to kinking, and BHB has some kinked caramels in his rack--he showed them off in a video once.

Its true that caramels kink but outcrossing them with other caramels has shown lines of caramels without any kinks. But I think they are a terrific morph to have in a collection, especially when crossed with other morphs.

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Originally Posted by EcToTh3rMiC215

Its true that caramels kink but outcrossing them with other caramels has shown lines of caramels without any kinks.

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I'd like to see proof of that (more than one or two clutches with no kinks).

I have always avoided them, not because I KNOW they are all prone to kinking, but because I do not know enough about them to decide either way.

Cannot deny they are a nice looking animal though.

bruce

I think it's one of the top MUST HAVE Morphs yaaaay yaaaeeh:gj:!

I love them and think they are one of the best looking base morphs as adults, but if you are going to work with caramels you just have to accept that at some point you are probably going to have to deal with kinked babies.

I think caramels are great morphs i have a male and a bunch of het babies. im just going to breed my hets to a pastel het caramel male instead of back to dad. I think you will get kinks either way. from what i know the ultraamel x caramel breeding was het x het and only from a 4 egg clutch thats what they are basing compatability on. I think caramels are cool reguardless kinda like spiders my male never wobbled he kinda spinned a lil but never really bad wobble i think some spiders have it some dont they all carry it and sooner or later you will get wobblers reguardless. I think if you like the morph work with them work with what you like. I think there are gonna be more caramel combos to come. All morphs are freaks if you think about it weather they have kinks spins just having different color they are freaks so i just say work with what you like and youl be happy

here is my slight tail kinked male,he is a bell line and here is one of his daughters from this year kink freehttp://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...s/IMG_0466.jpg
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I will never breed Caramels. The kinking thing does bother me to the point that I just will never work with them. I will get the Ultramels eventually. Since there is an alternative to the kinked Caramels, I will get them instead.

I will also go on the record and say the Spider wobble does not really bother me, because I have VERY SLIGHT wobblers. My adult female does not wobble at all, just does a slight head bob. The babies from her are the same, no wobble, just a slight head bob when feeding. I would say, if I had Spiders that tied themselves in knots, I might feel differently.

even if they are kinked they still can produce kink free babies as i just posted earlier. they key is to out cross and use drier incubating medium.