Well... you were all right!

I just separated the two, and put Sunny into an extra 15qt tub I had... also found an extra 10-20gal UTH laying around, so I just hooked that into my thermostat, and put her tub on top of the rack. They both actually seem happy to be alone, especially Sunny.

I'm thinking this might help with her skittishness, since it's now clear she was being bullied - she is much smaller/thinner than Sahara, but already looks more plump after eating 5 mealworms in her new home. She's also hanging out on TOP of the hides, which is a first for this girl. :gj: Here are some pictures of their new setups, and please tell me if I'm missing anything... I do need to add a humid hide in the tub, just trying to figure out how.

Sunny's new digs (for now)
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And Sahara enjoying his own place too...
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Originally Posted by olstyn

25 grams and 4 months is way too young for breeding, and you don't want him harassing/breeding her at that age.

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Speaking of which... I was just thinking, could she possibly be pregnant already? I certainly don't see anything to indicate that, but want to ask anyway. The boy is the same age (4 months), so hopefully he is also too young. :oops:

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

Speaking of which... I was just thinking, could she possibly be pregnant already? I certainly don't see anything to indicate that, but want to ask anyway. The boy is the same age (4 months), so hopefully he is also too young. :oops:

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Shouldn't be, but let's just say that it's good that you've separated them. Regarding your earlier question in the thread about at what age they reach adult size, if you look back to my first reply, you'll see that I said they reach adult size at around 18 months. This can of course vary slightly from individual to individual, but if you wait until they are at least 50 grams (55-60 is really better) *and* 18 months old to breed, you shouldn't have any problems.

That said, even if you intend to breed them, it's still better to have separate housing available unless you've got 1.2 or 1.3, because a male will generally harass one female too much - if you divide his attention between a few females or only house them together for short periods, it'll be healthier for the female(s).

Thanks! He'll be living alone for a while, until he puts on a little more weight... and then he will join my roommate's girls, since I wasn't even sure about breeding mine. His two are already full grown (I think 3-4 years old?), so I'm sure they are ready for a boyfriend. ;)

P.S. Do female leos generally like having a "friend" around? If so, maybe I'll get another guaranteed female to join her. If they don't care either way, I'll probably just keep her as a solo pet. (I can always add a male if I change my mind, once she's big enough to breed)

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

Thanks! He'll be living alone for a while, until he puts on a little more weight... and then he will join my roommate's girls, since I wasn't even sure about breeding mine. His two are already full grown (I think 3-4 years old?), so I'm sure they are ready for a boyfriend. ;)

P.S. Do female leos generally like having a "friend" around? If so, maybe I'll get another guaranteed female to join her. If they don't care either way, I'll probably just keep her as a solo pet. (I can always add a male if I change my mind, once she's big enough to breed)

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In my experience, Leopard Geckos do better housed individually. There is no chance of bullying or competition for food. Leopard geckos (along with most reptiles) require no companionship and are solitary individuals. Just keep in mind if you do get another female it needs to be close to the same size your current one is and that there is no guarantee that they will get along - be prepared to house them separately.