Some lady was letting her kids run around the mall...

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

Ah. Gotcha.

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Yea I figure spitballs would be a bit too much. Though i'm sure she had no clue it was pepsi.

Too large a percentage of people Just Don't Care these days. They're too busy with their own precious social lives to give a darn about others, including their own children at times. Most of them just expect everyone else to keep tabs on the kids for them!

Reminds me of the woman on the Bus who let her 8(ish) year old boy RUN up and down the aisle of the bus white it was moving, screaming and slapping the seats, while she just sat there staring out the window. The driver asked her nicely several times to get him to stop and sit down, and each time she weakly told him to sit which he would do for 10 seconds before starting up again. Finally, after the kid toppled over forward after a stop, the driver asked the woman and kid to get off the bus. She looked ANNOYED at that! Some people...:colbert:

yeah I cant stand when parents let their kids run a muck and do whatever they please (in public or at home) just because it's easier for the parents.

Ive seen where little kids start to throw a fit and want candy or one of those little toys at the registers and just to shut them up, the parent(s) get it for them.

I've seen where parents at the fair have let their little ones run off on their own, go to the bathrooms by themselves, all kinds of scary scenarios todays world isn't the same when we were young! (Im 31 so this includes people my age or "wiser" ;)) Wayyy too many sicko's!

I have a 10 y/o niece and I dont even let her go to the public bathrooms alone (single stall bathrooms I wait outside the door, more than 1 stall, I go in with her) due to the fear of what happened to that little boy years ago.. (anyone else remember this story I'm sorry to say the little boys name has been long forgotten, I was younger when it happened) Anyway, the little boy was at a park and his aunt took him to the bathroom and waited outside for him to come out. Well a guy went in right after the little boy did and he stabbed the little boy to death. The aunt was right outside and had no clue what was happening until she seen the man run out with blood all over him!

Ive seen where kids are let run up & down at restaurants almost plowing down the waitresses that are carrying HOT foods. yelling & screaming! It's not enjoyable and relaxing when I'm trying to eat my dinner that I just paid good money for. Or when they are allowed to stand on the chairs.. I always say to myself "have fun when that child is a teenager!" Not saying that our 3 y/o is a saint, cuz she is by farrrr a saint, but if we're in public and she starts to throw a tantrum like any other toddler, especially at a restaurant she's taken to the car to let scream & cry, when she's calmed down THEN we talk to her and explain bad behavior does NOT get rewarded! (oh and you have to LOVE when the parents that allow their kids to behave like this look at you like you're a horrible parent. Yeah we'll see in the future where the spoiled brat is and where our well behaved child ends up) (well in theory lol there's no guarantees)

Parents need to be ready for the FULL commitment of having children. The children are the innocent ones in this, its up to the parents to raise them correctly and hope someday your good parenting will pay off and they will choose to make the right choices in life.

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If you guys want to learn a nice trick with your kids:

When they are very young let them play around with soap in the bathroom and in the kitchen and other such things, make sure it's an enjoyable activity for them. When they get around 5+ and you go to the grocery store instead of saying you'll get them candy if they're good tell them "If you're good you can each get your own bottle of scrubbing bubbles and we can go home and clean the kitchen!" to which they will probably say "yay, can we each get our own paper towels too?" to which you should reply "Of course, but only if you're good."

Also if you ever say "we will leave if you continue to misbehave" you need to leave if they misbehave, right then and there, put away the frozen foods and ditch your cart and just leave.

I'm picking up so many nifty tricks off my psych professor.

Also on topic... The kids running around didn't annoy me, I just kind of followed them from a distance to be sure nothing happened. What annoyed me was their mother not seeming to care and instead being on the phone, this is where children are kidnapped. Oh yeah and I was also annoyed by the cleaning staff who kept hovering around me and weren't wearing gloves. I was gunna report that had I not seen the kids.

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

If you guys want to learn a nice trick with your kids:

When they are very young let them play around with soap in the bathroom and in the kitchen and other such things, make sure it's an enjoyable activity for them. When they get around 5+ and you go to the grocery store instead of saying you'll get them candy if they're good tell them "If you're good you can each get your own bottle of scrubbing bubbles and we can go home and clean the kitchen!" to which they will probably say "yay, can we each get our own paper towels too?" to which you should reply "Of course, but only if you're good."

Also if you ever say "we will leave if you continue to misbehave" you need to leave if they misbehave, right then and there, put away the frozen foods and ditch your cart and just leave.

I'm picking up so many nifty tricks off my psych professor.

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You're insane, lmao. Actually your psych professor maybe insane.

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Originally Posted by Neal

You're insane, lmao. Actually your psych professor maybe insane.

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I can see it working, though. And I will do that when I have kids... if I see much of them... hrm having kids and being a surgeon could be difficult... Meh, who knows I may not get into med school.

But really if you learn about reinforcement and punishment and you properly use both (messing up either is fairly easy and constantly done by everyone) you can mess around with your kids so easily. My psych teacher was telling us about how she taught her kids that Halloween was about running around getting candy for her and that if they got a good haul she'd give them each a piece. It took them until the second grade to realize that she was messing with them.

Kids are smarter then you give them credit for. lol

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Originally Posted by Neal

Kids are smarter then you give them credit for. lol

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It's not about giving them credit for it, it's about learning and behavior. You can make just about anything seem like a fun activity if you do it properly. This has been proven in the past and it's part of Operant Conditioning.

For example, have you ever wondered why some people love math and other people hate it? It's all about how they learned to look at it as children. I didn't much care either way with math as a child, I just thought it was something we did in class. Then I happened to get a 100% on a test and this was reinforced by my parents to the point where math is my favorite subject (and yes I drool when I get a good calculus problem)

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Originally Posted by Neal

Because instead of sticking paper in my mouth to get it wet, which I figured would be nasty, I dipped the paper in my pepsi and put it into a straw, and I put a ? at the end because I made up the name pepsiball. :)

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Well that just makes it a stupid action on your part instead of just being nasty :weirdface.How did you doing that help the situation?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Well that just makes it a stupid action on your part instead of just being nasty :weirdface.How did you doing that help the situation?

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It made her hang up the phone, and pay attention to her kid. It was also quite funny.