King Cobras- How?

Conversely, here in Oklahoma you just have to apply for a special license and show a warden your cage meets "standard". But, if you don't tell anyone, no one knows...

There was one guy selling sidewinders a while back, wouldn't sell to minors and anyone who didn't have the license.

Haha in South Carolina you just have to be 18... Nothing else

1000 hours is ridiculous.

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1000 hours is ridiculous.

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I don't think it is ridiculous. I think all states should have some sort of restriction like this. Maybe not 1000 hours, but at least 500. It's easy for people to forget that these animals are dangerous and need to be respected.


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I don't think it is ridiculous. I think all states should have some sort of restriction like this. Maybe not 1000 hours, but at least 500. It's easy for people to forget that these animals are dangerous and need to be respected.


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50 hours is more than enough, unless you're brain dead.

Keeping venomous reptiles can be a huge pain just due to red tape and no consistent laws.
Between federal, state/provincial and local by-laws there is a lot of hoops to jump through that have no influence of safely keeping or handling these animals.

Granted this might cut down on a number of fools keeping them because they are "bad a**" animals, it doesn't help serious herpetologists, venom collectors(for antivenin production), or add to safety of the community or the handler.
The best models I've seen are the jurisdictions that run an "apprentice" type of program.

Venomoids are also occasionally available but, a snake or two has been known to re-grow the severed ducts to transport venom to the fangs.
Even a venomoid should be treated the same as a true "hot" herp.

Heh Texas you simple go to Walmart pay $20 for your controlled snake permit if you don't have one. And boom. Legal to own any venomous as long as its not protected / endangered


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Heh Texas you simple go to Walmart pay $20 for your controlled snake permit if you don't have one. And boom. Legal to own any venomous as long as its not protected / endangered


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And how many innocent citizens have been killed by a captive venomous snakes that escaped? I guess none...

Which means there is nothing wrong with the system. A system should be in place, only to protect the public.

Who cares if a keeper is bitten and dies? If someone is stupid enough to buy a venomous snake, that they know full well they cannot handle confidently, it's their own fault.

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I don't think it is ridiculous. I think all states should have some sort of restriction like this. Maybe not 1000 hours, but at least 500. It's easy for people to forget that these animals are dangerous and need to be respected.


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Easy to forget? I don't think so. Who forgets their cobra or rattlesnake is venomous and decides to free handle it? I think that goes back to being brain dead.

I think 1000 hours is a bit much and I wonder how well they are finding people keeping hots without the proper permits. Its kinda like the banned snakes. Its left to the keepers themselves to follow the law. If I move from one state to another who will know, its not like they have snake check points. I also know you will have a hard time finding law enforcement that will know what snakes are banned or even what the banned snakes look like.

They are feel good laws that make people feel like they have accomplished something. Just like outlawing guns only takes them out of law abiding citizens hands but not the criminals. I bet you even the law makers couldn't pick out the banned snakes from a line up.

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And how many innocent citizens have been killed by a captive venomous snakes that escaped? I guess none...

Which means there is nothing wrong with the system. A system should be in place, only to protect the public.

Who cares if a keeper is bitten and dies? If someone is stupid enough to buy a venomous snake, that they know full well they cannot handle confidently, it's their own fault.

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Lol ok - my statement was just a statement calm down crot ;)

But yes there should be no need for deep permit systems since the endangerment comes to that of the keeper first. Should I say, natural selection?


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