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  • 08-07-2013, 05:53 AM
    eatgoodfood
    News: 2 die in Boa Attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Is it sad that two kids died? Yes.

    Am i more saddened over the impact it'll have on my hobby? Yes.

    Kids die all the time from all sorts of causes. Casey Anthony killed her kid without any snakes and she got away with it. I really think this guy did it and he sucks for dragging down our hobby with it.

    Im going to have to agree with mike on this. Do I think its sad that these kids died, yes, but there is nothing we can do about that. Its like the mom a few months ago who went crazy and drove the wrong way on the autobahn and killed herself and her kids. Sad yea, why arnt we banning cars and autobahns??? Because people die and kids die every day on the streets. No one thinks twice about it, it doesnt make international news. Kids shoot eachother in the inner cities, teenagers overdose on drugs, kids drown in swimming pools, kids and people die every day probably every minute or more and no one thinks twice about it. Two kids die in a tragic accident involving a snake, which im still skeptical of, and everyone wants to jump in and start taking peoples rights away. Its not right and its not ok.
  • 08-07-2013, 06:06 AM
    Mr Oni
    Swimming pools....everyday living in AZ some kids drowned....every...single...day.

    It is horrible and by no means do I have no ache in my heart for such a sad event but swooping down and already starting this "should we ban" BS is stupid.

    Today is 'jungle week' at my youngests school.
    I recieved permission so I am bringing my homie Tank with me to show these little kids and teachers that there is no reason to fear.
    I encourage everyone to spread the factual info and love.
  • 08-07-2013, 09:14 AM
    BrandiR
    Re: News: 2 die in Boa Attack
    I didn't say that snakes should be banned over this. In fact, I specifically said that the specific owner of that specific snake should be held responsible and no one else, snake included. Just because I didn't add one more, "This is crap! The snake didn't do it!" to the previous 17 pages of, "This is crap! The snake didn't do it!" that doesn't mean that I don't agree with everything that's been said. I just think that loss of life, especially the lives of children trumps loss of....well, anything else.

    It's evident from reports of how he kept his animals and his past problems that this guy owning potentially dangerous animals was an accident waiting to happen. I think it's pretty ridiculous that anyone would look at this case and not be able to see that. Again- I am not advocating for a reptile ban. I'm simply advocating for a little compassion for the two little boys that are dead, regardless of how they died.
  • 08-07-2013, 09:33 AM
    grcforce327
    Re: rock python kills 2 children
    The snake hit 66 2/3%!
  • 08-07-2013, 10:09 AM
    bcr229
    Re: News: 2 die in Boa Attack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrandiR View Post
    I didn't say that snakes should be banned over this. In fact, I specifically said that the specific owner of that specific snake should be held responsible and no one else, snake included.

    And in a rational world that is exactly what would happen, but the average non-herper isn't all that rational about snakes. My understanding is that this snake was already being kept illegally and it has been euthanized, so it has also paid the price for its owner's stupidity and irresponsibility.
  • 08-07-2013, 11:11 AM
    Kodieh
    They're playing close to the vest on the autopsy reports. One would think that if it fits the theory, then they'd blab it to the world the second it was confirmed.

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  • 08-07-2013, 11:24 AM
    jclaiborne
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/258923795...=1821663211001

    Foxnews.com put out this 2 minute video this morning stating that the owner called the snake "vicious" and that he wanted it put down. If you watch half way through the video they show a picture of the boys and say "this snake, nearly 14ft long" the screen splits and they show images of a BP and a small clip of a BP being held as they reference the Rock python...Fail.
  • 08-07-2013, 11:34 AM
    Archimedes
    I'm really trying to reserve judgement about this entire case until more conclusive evidence is brought forward, but right now, I wouldn't put this keeper below anything. He sounds like he needs to be brought in and questioned, if you ask me.
  • 08-07-2013, 11:35 AM
    Pythonfriend
    forget fox, just ignore it.....


    while other mainstream media often gets things wrong, or fails to research properly, fox deliberately distorts the truth and disinforms people.

    its the only news channel where viewers are less informed about issues than people that do not watch any news at all.

    EDIT: and yes, im still waiting for autopsy reports / files being charged / results from the investigation. It looks very bad, but at the same time its not yet solid.
  • 08-07-2013, 12:03 PM
    sorraia
    I just wish there were an easy way to get the general public to understand not all snakes are the same. The arguments I'm seeing the most as a result of this are:
    - Snakes aren't domesticated and shouldn't be kept as "pets"
    - Snakes are killers and dangerous and shouldn't be kept in captivity
    - Snakes are wild animals and shouldn't be kept in captivity
    - Snakes can't be properly provided for and therefore shouldn't be kept in captivity
    - Most people can't properly care for a snake, therefore no one should keep snakes
    - Snakes eat live animals, which are cruelly kept and bred, and therefore it is cruel to keep snakes in captivity
    - Snakes don't have affection for people, therefore aren't "pets"
    - Snakes become invasive species that eat native wildlife in threatened habitat, therefore no snakes should be kept in captivity any where

    There might be a few more, but those are the big ones. It isn't hard to refute any of those, but people who are blind and deaf won't listen or see reason, nor will the see or hear the fallacies in their own arguments.
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