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  • 05-28-2012, 05:31 AM
    youbeyouibei
    Glad it was resolved. However, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. The thundering, deafening silence and days on end of no kind of response or action to rectify the situation prior to the mobilization of the reptile forum and rodent forum masses speaks for itself. Maybe I'm harsh but theft is theft or at the very least conversion and a pattern of that type of behavior is just that, a pattern, indicative of larger issues at work than a simple "mistake" at the time of the animals arrival. Glad the mouse is being returned to the rightful owner and that all this was made public; quite the eye opener.
  • 05-28-2012, 06:56 AM
    sho220
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaintTawny View Post
    I read a little bit from the threads on other forums and I'm in total shock over how callous some people are being.

    Some of the comments made on the taxidermy site were a bit surprising. Considering what they're into, I would have thought they'd be a little more understanding and open-minded... :confused:
  • 05-28-2012, 08:21 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lycrisa View Post
    The thing that gets me is that she has the nerve to delete comments, and ban members for bringing it up on the club forum she admins.

    Why not just leave them there? That just seems like unprofessional behavior on the part of a club official, but why does it surprise me anyway?

    By the way, I did have a account before but I lost the computer
    and the information for it with it.
    And you guys are awesome, you actually listened to what was being said instead of instantly shooting it down like other people did.

    If she does cooperate I'm sure we could put a mouse train together.

    I've been following TMC as well - and Casey - your deletions of posts about this deal goes further to illustrate just how immoral and shady you really are.

    But, then again - it IS your own little fairy tale land, so I guess you can do what you want, but you're doing a disservice to your membership. I hope enough of them were able to see the posts about your dealings and are learning that perhaps they might want to find another club, and certainly not to include you in mouse shipments that you have money for, BEFORE you take care of this issue.

    "Hello - my name is Casey and Selfish and Dishonest are my middle names".
  • 05-28-2012, 08:38 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptilegirl07 View Post
    Okay good news. I talked to Casey tonight. She was really beating herself up. She has a lot of trouble dealing with stressful situations and with anxiety and she's horrible with conveying things in text.

    She is very sorry for what happened and allowing it to continue on the thread without participating.

    So I have the mouse, she gave her to me on her own will and she is very healthy and happy.

    Thank you all for supporting Stina through this and I am grateful for a happy ending.

    Thank you Casey for doing the right thing. :)

    http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1268/abby1k.jpg

    http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6903/abby3x.jpg

    Obviously - I haven't read the rest of the thread yet - but I personally find Casey's third party apology pretty shallow. As far as "I" am concerned, the fact that she's not admitted any culpability in this entire thing, and ONLY returned the mouse when the heat was turned up, and the additional complaints about other bad dealings with her speaks far more to her character than feeling bad because of these threads.
  • 05-28-2012, 08:39 AM
    sho220
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by youbeyouibei View Post
    Glad it was resolved. However, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

    Or as GW Bush put it, "Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, you can’t get fooled again" :rolleye2: Two failed quotes for the price of one! :D
  • 05-28-2012, 08:40 AM
    Lucille
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    I didn't intentionally steal the mouse

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stina View Post
    the cop that responded spoke to her (while she continued to refuse and tell the cop it was up for debate as to who the mouse belongs to)

    Why was that a subject for debate?


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptilegirl07 View Post
    If the doe is pregnant she is not very far along in my opinion. I would assume longer than a week if so. She's not HUGE as far as I can tell.

    Perhaps she had her litter already
  • 05-28-2012, 08:41 AM
    sho220
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Obviously - I haven't read the rest of the thread yet - but I personally find Casey's third party apology pretty shallow. As far as "I" am concerned, the fact that she's not admitted any culpability in this entire thing, and ONLY returned the mouse when the heat was turned up, and the additional complaints about other bad dealings with her speaks far more to her character than feeling bad because of these threads.

    Anyone who accepts the lame, so-called "apology" and does any business with her in the future is...well...a fool! :D
  • 05-28-2012, 08:43 AM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Or as GW Bush put it, "Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, you can’t get fooled again" :rolleye2: Two failed quotes for the price of one! :D

    He certainly had a way with words, didnt he :)

    Im glad that elena has the mouse and stina will be getting it back soon. The fact that Casey still isnt taking any blame for it and saying it was a misunderstanding still boggles me. Has she really repeated the lie that many times over in her head that she actually believes it now?
  • 05-28-2012, 09:39 AM
    Skiploder
    Re: Beware of Casey Lauren Byiers (Rhasputin/EVLV/Eccentric Evolution)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    Obviously - I haven't read the rest of the thread yet - but I personally find Casey's third party apology pretty shallow. As far as "I" am concerned, the fact that she's not admitted any culpability in this entire thing, and ONLY returned the mouse when the heat was turned up, and the additional complaints about other bad dealings with her speaks far more to her character than feeling bad because of these threads.

    Indeed.

    Doing the right thing when a gun is pointed at your head? Shunned on all the forums and a threatened impeachment on one you founded?

    That's not doing the right thing. Glad the OP got her mouse back, but as Robin said, all I see is a person who finally decided that keeping the mouse was severely cramping her online "status" and still refuses to admit any real fault.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhasputin
    I didn't intentionally steal the mouse, it was a mistake made at the source, and I should have handled it as soon as the problem was noticed.

  • 05-28-2012, 10:37 AM
    wolfy-hound
    Well, and what about all the other mice that she was trying to take that the other members of the shipment had to remove from her box? What about the other issues that she's had?

    Is this a case of genuine remorse over a mistake she doesn't want to repeat? Or is it that she figured if she gave back one mouse to one complainant, that she can continue to do the group deal(s)?

    Why wasn't the mouse returned when all the evidence showed it was not part of her order? If it was just a unintentional mistake, why the huge delay and refusing to return it in the first place?
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