Ballbids.com

wait a minute.... this says the sight owner is here :BALL BIDS, LLC.
Coral Springs
Florida, US

i thought they were in KY or somewhere???????
spooky

Started in FL, moved to KY. Gotta keep up :D

LOL:oops:

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Originally Posted by Don

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...auctions_n.htm

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This was helpful. Thanks for sharing this, Don.

One more thing I just noticed. Avi, have you posted anywhere under Zach's name and passed yourself off as him? I find it very odd that your grammar, spelling and sentence structure are fairly well formed and presented. Zach, on the other hand, cannot spell or put sentences together without serious grammatical errors and spelling errors. Yet, there are posts here under Zach's banned accounts that have very well written posts.

It is not just here. I've noticed on other sites, when the real Zach posts, his sentences are fragmented, spelling is awful and he is unable to express himself in writing. When you post, the sentence structure is good, spelling is proper and grammar is much better.

I think you may have been passing yourself off as Zach. For example, here is a thread supposedly from Zach from his banned account:

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Hello everyone, Zack from ballbids.com here


I saw a lot of you where skeptical about our new site and let me tell you, I do not blame you. This is brand new to the reptile industry and being that said I expected many people to be skeptical at first. Also, it does not help that other penny auction websites have scammed people. Tho any business has the ability to scam you. Many of them do use robot auto bidders as well. That's usually why they get into big trouble. We do not. If we take a loss then we take a loss. All of the snakes are from constrictors unlimited except the fire girl. She is my own. Just wanted to promote my business a little and give back something to the community that I have been in for a good while now. Which brings me to my next thing. I am a ball python breeder, I would not ruin my reputation just to make a quick buck. I love this industry to much to be thrown out of it

So in conclusion, I just wanted to say that I hope you can keep an open mind about this as well as see that I am not hiding my identity. There is nothing shady about what we are doing. I hope to see you all over here at ballbids.
Thanks again and if there are any questions I have left unanswered please do not hesitate to ask.

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Here is a post from the real Zach (which I think you helped him correct):

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Hey everyone, Zack at Ballbids.com again


I see a lot of people are concerned about what has happened in the past. Let me explain... I never admitted to a lie because I never told one. I never made myself out to be better then anyone else. I never did anything wrong actually, accept not spelling right and posting to many threads about the same thing. I could see where people would have gotten mad but hey, it was my first time to a forum ever and as you can see, I am a very outgoing and friendly character that does not like negativity in my life. When people started to behave in an inappropriate manner it was only a matter of time before I snapped. I was not ready for that. Kind of threw me off I guess. Either way I should have never been irrational and lost my temper. Besides that, I never scammed or would even scam anyone in my entire life. I don't know why people like to make false accusations. But that is their business. Mine is to help suppress the negative false comments so that people that actually do like this company will not be scared off for false reasons. Anyways, I really wish the bad talking would end because there are no valid points to it. Yes it says on our website that we guarantee our product up to 7 days. We do guarantee live arrival. We do put it out there that you have to buy bids first. We even give you back 5 percent. We could have done this a different way just to make more money. And it might also have worked that way. But we did't. We wanted to make it honest and fair for everyone. I know why you are concerned. We all have been scammed. Not by me tho, and you will never by me! I hope you can agree with my ethics even if you don't agree with my business.

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Here is a thread from the real Zach without your help from a thread last year:

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Ok I was not trying to impress anyone and I am not trying to act like a tough guy. I have been there done that. This is me. I say what I say but I will try and improve on what I say. If you really think you havent done anything look how you are talking to me. Look how your friend is insulting me. If you believe that you are right about that then you are way wrong. I admit that I need to work on how I come off here but please understand that you have said way to much and altercated a bigger viewing of this thread. So if you believe that you are right than think about it. You are being just as combative as me. Now lets shut it down and maybe one day we can talk eye to eye but I assure you right now you are making me mad with your insults. Like I said I am not a kid, maybe young but not a kid. Our experiances of life are all different. I might know a lot more about other things then you. But it doesnt matter. I said what I said and corrected it and you continued. What does that say on your behalf?

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See the difference? It is not just here, but pretty much everywhere I look at in the on-line community of reptiles. Avi, have you been posting as Zach?

Lol so ive been reading this whole thread and i went on fb a little while ago and saw this

Ben Siegel Reptiles
T MINUS 1 HOUR TILL 7 DAYTIME REPTILE AUCTIONS-----maybe we are going to try something new today everyone----you all pay me---i dont know--lets say 50 cents everytime you bid---bid alot---then whoever bids at the last minute might win the reptile in question? unless the bids automatically get extended by another bid within 15 seconds----at which point we will have a round robin style table silent auction bid-----AFTER that the final 3 people can have a greco roman style wrestling match-----once the winner of the match is determined-------then that person can place his one remaining POWER bid to get the actual animal in question! We will then have a one final contest where challengers can gather to challenge the actual winner to a thumb wrestling contest if they can guess the number I am thinking during a round of rock, paper scissors.
OR you could just come to our wall and bid on the first, best and most reliable DAILY reptile auctions that put up high end animals and ball python morphs EVERY DAY at no reserve. HAVE TO SAY--the first option is quite tempting-...... hmmmm-----NAH!! Ill go with the second! — with Joseph Laubscher.



Lmao this just made my day

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Originally Posted by Don

One more thing I just noticed. Avi, have you posted anywhere under Zach's name and passed yourself off as him? I find it very odd that your grammar, spelling and sentence structure are fairly well formed and presented. Zach, on the other hand, cannot spell or put sentences together without serious grammatical errors and spelling errors. Yet, there are posts here under Zach's banned accounts that have very well written posts.

It is not just here. I've noticed on other sites, when the real Zach posts, his sentences are fragmented, spelling is awful and he is unable to express himself in writing. When you post, the sentence structure is good, spelling is proper and grammar is much better.

I think you may have been passing yourself off as Zach. For example, here is a thread supposedly from Zach from his banned account:



Here is a post from the real Zach (which I think you helped him correct):


Here is a thread from the real Zach without your help from a thread last year:


See the difference? It is not just here, but pretty much everywhere I look at in the on-line community of reptiles. Avi, have you been posting as Zach?

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Good luck getting an honest answer...

These guys are a real piece of work. They are genius when it comes to getting attention but are absolutely not good for our hobby in my opinion. At this point, Mr. Wilbanks has chosen not to speak on this matter, either on his forum or facebook page. To Zach and Avi, I say to do the reptile community a big favor and just go away

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Originally Posted by Don

One more thing I just noticed. Avi, have you posted anywhere under Zach's name and passed yourself off as him? I find it very odd that your grammar, spelling and sentence structure are fairly well formed and presented. Zach, on the other hand, cannot spell or put sentences together without serious grammatical errors and spelling errors. Yet, there are posts here under Zach's banned accounts that have very well written posts.

It is not just here. I've noticed on other sites, when the real Zach posts, his sentences are fragmented, spelling is awful and he is unable to express himself in writing. When you post, the sentence structure is good, spelling is proper and grammar is much better.

I think you may have been passing yourself off as Zach. For example, here is a thread supposedly from Zach from his banned account:



Here is a post from the real Zach (which I think you helped him correct):


Here is a thread from the real Zach without your help from a thread last year:


See the difference? It is not just here, but pretty much everywhere I look at in the on-line community of reptiles. Avi, have you been posting as Zach?

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I noticed that as well.

given Avi's brief experience with this industry, it might go a long way in explaining why the one user-one account rule was "overlooked." especially after Zach had been through precisely the same ordeal last year and was warned about it after the administrators merged his two accounts.

edit: the previously documented obdurate and deliberate ignorance also could be to blame as long as we're just speculating.

LOL at Ben's facebook!