Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?

The dude is a moron. One for coating it in oil and two for putting on a show in front of minors. For that alone he should spend a few evenings in jail.

I would think coating it in oil has to be abuse/nelgect for the snake, I mean as we talk about what is or isn't the proper diet for a snake I don't ever recall seeing that any snake likes it's food in crisco. Who knows the effects that has on the snake.

I see dogs and cats as family pets and I feel it's not right to feed them to anything, that being said feeding a puppy, bunny, rat or pig to a snake is one in the same. As for puppies not being the proper food for a snake explain that to a friend of mine who's burm got loose for about a week in his neighborhood before he could finally catch it and when it had a bm a nice cute little collar w/ a tag was in it. I know if I owned a large snake and had small dog or cat or puppies/kittens I would not leave two alone together because most large snakes can't read to know what their correct food source is suppose to be.

Tis true in other parts of the world dog, cats and even snakes are considered a normal food source for humans, heck in a few remote parts of the world w/ some tribes humans are considered a food source. Different strokes for different folks and different cultures.

I feed live to my snakes and I cringe everytime I do it but I do it because it comes w/ the ownership of reptiles. Feeding any mammal to a reptile or any thing else is one in the same rather it's a dog or a rat.

I tend to agree that this just adds another pin to the doll of us who own snakes. Bad owners and snakes who eat puppies is how this will get spun.

The fact that he is an adult abusing animals is scarey to me as there is far to many studies that show adults who torture and abuse animals have a greater chance of doing the same to humans ie serial murders, rapists etc.
And then to being doing this in front of 15yo kids is unacceptable.

On a whole different level was it wrong to feed the puppy to the snake anymore than having be unclaimed or casted off and taken in to be put down?
The results are the same.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jotay again.

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Originally Posted by monk90222

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jotay again.

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I must ask, what does this phrase mean? I always see it used against users with the most valid points in their posts.


Anyway, one man's pet is another man's pest.

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Originally Posted by Grim91Z

I must ask, what does this phrase mean? I always see it used against users with the most valid points in their posts.


Anyway, one man's pet is another man's pest.

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It means that the person who posted it has given positive rep points to that person already and has to spread the love before giving that person more prp's.

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Here's the thing. LEGALLY is it more cruel to feed a puppy than a rat or rabbit? Does it cause more pain/distress? I think that's subjective--and it's where we soft-hearted humans, who see dogs as "man's best friend", start anthropomorphizing. Surely our smart dog would feel more trauma and pain than some rat or rabbit. A rat being constricted to death, a rabbit being constricted to death, we can imagine they have some distress--they're having the air squeezed our of their lungs--but more or less than a puppy? Who knows? I tend to think that it would be a similar experience for rat, rabbit and puppy.

I think the "cruelty" part would be that the puppy was coated in oil first--I'd think someone was being cruel if they doused live rats in oil before feeding, too. I think that if he was being charged for cruelty for neglecting his snake and for coating the puppy in oil first, that would be just. If he had stolen the puppy from someone in order to feed it to his snake, then that's robbery and he certainly should go to jail.

I think the point of contention from the get-go in this thread (and that got a tad clouded with emotion from we soft-hearted lovers of animals) was that this man WASN'T being charged with cruelty for neglecting his snake or for dousing the puppy in oil before feeding and he wasn't being charged with robbery (we don't know where the puppy came from--for all we know it was a stray, doomed to die in a week from malnutrition and neglect), but that he was being charged for animal cruelty for feeding a puppy--period. It wouldn't have mattered if the puppy was doused in oil or if it was fed in front of children, the man still would have been charged with animal cruelty. I think it was being brought up as something to think about, not a pro-puppy-feeding campaign or a pro-puppy-feeding-bad-snake-owner campaign. Why are the distinctions made, why do we feel as we do for some animals and not others, and at what point might snake owners have to worry about getting "normal" live feeder animals for fear that feeding them off will now be considered "animal cruelty".

That said, we do tend to have a certain attachment to the animals we care about. Anthropologists tend to think that man and canine have peacefully co-existed in a symbiotic relationship for many thousands of years. Humans provided food and a warm place to sleep, canines protected the humans--pretty sweet deal. Because the relationship has existed in this way, and because dogs have been domesticated for so long, it doesn't surprise me that we feel abhorrence at the idea of a puppy being fed to anything: human, reptile or otherwise.

I'm not familiar with any ancient civilizations domesticating rats or rabbits, through a symbiotic bond over the course of thousands of years and remaining to this day...which could explain why we make the distinction.

I've gone onto a bit of a ramble and basically typed things out as I was thinking them--I apologize if it's hard to wade through :) My mind is sometimes a disorganized place.

Yes, a major part of the cruelty thing is simply a double standard based on emotional issues. It is a matter of which animals we've decided are pets and which are pests. In Australia, for historical reasons, many regard cats as pests and will even set fatal traps for them.

I made a joke a while back about feeding live kittens to my BP to save money on buying mice and I got a negative feedback from someone claiming that I was joking about animal cruelty. I don't believe there is any argument that can justify that as animal cruelty over feeding live mice, rats, or rabbits. But, to them there is clearly a line.

Then, of course, there might be some that argue that feeding F/T is more humane than feeding live. To me, that is simply a matter of "out of sight out of mind". Similar to your average meat consumer. We all eat meat but few of us are conditioned to the actual butchering experience.

In the end, humanity is ultimately a matter of opinion. While there is a loose concensus amongst most people, the details will vary. Likewise, the negative responses inhumane practices generate are ultimately due to the discomfort EXPERIENCED BY THE PEOPLE through sympathy. That is what is so disturbing about this guy's little show is that it seems almost purely designed to upset people. It's value as a feeding session is clearly dubious.

i don't think the article ever mentioned that the cruelty charge was BECAUSE the snake was fed a puppy. they said they were already investigating the mistreatment of the snake when they came upon this information. i think the article is just more focused on that because, obviously, it's getting more attention than the fact that this guy doesn't know/care what he's doing.

There's so many posts here I don't have the patience to read them all but I wanted to throw my two cents in on the subject. I appologize if some of this has been mentioned before.



I agree what the man did was wrong and should be punished.
1. He used cooking oil. Cruel to the dog, cruel to the snake.
2. The dog was most likely a pet.
3. The snake was mistreated.
4. There's a wide variety of other feeding options available that a snake would be more apt to eat and that would be more socially acceptable.
5. He had adolescents watching.

Feeding a dog to a snake is kinda like eating a Cow Vs. eating a horse. I don't see a difference. Both are livestock and both are of roughley the same intellegence. However, most people would cringe at the thought of eating a horse, but would not think twice about eating veal. Something inside me tells me its wrong to feed a dog to a snake, but I don't think it's moral. I think it has to do with me growing up with dogs as pets. If I had grown up with mice as pets and dogs as snake food, things would be different. Society sees dogs as cute and cuddely and mice/rats are vermin. I think that's the whole difference.

I feel that it is wrong, but I must ask myself how is feeding a dog to a snake any worse than we humans slaughtering millions of chickens, pigs, and cows? It's really not.

Austin

lets see was feeding a puppy to a boa a good idea ? Probably not, Morraly right or wrong lets leave it at that, do I want the government any where near reagulating what my snakes can or cant eat or how I should feed it to them,not at all.In the end if basckily comes down to mother natures rules the stonger eats the weaker and survives those are the only rules of nature. As to the issue of wether its' right or wrong to eat dogs and cat's its not our culture dosn't mean they need to change it to make our simple little cultural norms feel better.If we as a nation want to make it illegal in this country to eat cat's and dog's then we can pass a law hopefully it's not 51 to 49 percent victory margin. This is within our right as it shouldn't be allowed that some other country pass laws outlawing somthing we enjoy smiply becasue it's strange in their culture. For a group of people who supposedly have open inquistive minds, They do seem to get closed awfully quickly when they come into ideas that are beyond their cultural norms.This is the basic thought pattern that causes other nations to be unfriendly towards this country, and we have noone but ourselves to blame now will we. So lets agree to disagree treat eachohter with respect and as much dignigty as possiable and consider and respect our cultural differnces and try and make this world a happier place to live for all.

Sick man obviously. He was neglecting the snake too....

Damn, I'm not entirely sure there is anything too wrong with it tho. Too many times I've been called a sick mofo for letting a rabbit meet the end of a baseball bat for george...