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  • 10-18-2013, 06:22 PM
    satomi325
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    I do agree to feed what you want as long as it's quality.

    An improper raw can do as much damage as low quality kibble. Feeding quality, whether raw or kibble, should be a given and a requirement.

    But unfortunately some of the foods suggested in this thread was less than quality and not appropriate to feed imo... :(
    And it's a shame that certain veterinarians blindly advocate those diets.
  • 10-18-2013, 06:31 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    You're not paying attention. Nobody here says dogs don't benefit from vegetables. Quite a lot of raw feeders follow the BARF (as opposed to PMR) that includes vegetables. But many here are telling you that dogs DO NOT NEED vegetables. You can eliminate veggies completely out of their diet and it will not harm them any. On the other hand, if you completely eliminate animals out of their diet, they will be unhealthy dogs. And even - if their diet consists mainly of plants more than animals, they will be unhealthy too. Yes, that's why Science Diet changed their formula to have meat as the first ingredient. No, that did not make them quality food. It's still a scummy food for many other reasons.




    Yes, Americans have evolved to eat McDonalds and can extract nutrition and sustenance out of it. And your point is?




    Sure, and nobody here... .NODOBDY... said your dogs are going to get sick on kibble. Everybody here is saying there are better kibble than Science Diet... or gasp!... Purina! (Yes, a vet tech just claimed in this here thread that Purina is just as good as Blue Buffalo).




    AMEN. I have 2 English Bulldogs. I'm not sold on grain free. I'm on LOW CARBS. Or as low a carbs as possible. Grain Free food is useless if you're just swapping rice for white potato unless your dog is allergic to rice. But, grain free food is corn free so you have one good thing about grain free - GMO ingredient is highly unlikely.




    And you don't even stop to wonder... not even a smidgen... why Panda bears sleep for most of the day? Or why they have a very hard time pro-creating?

    Here's some info for you from http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=379:

    Why do you always assume that I'm addressing you in any of this?

    I ignored it the first time - when it was more than obvious that you felt my comments were directed at you. From here on out when I'm addressing your comments or your POV, I'll make sure you know.

    That way, you can give your severely wedged up panties a breather.
  • 10-18-2013, 06:44 PM
    sho220
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coleslaw007 View Post
    Guys, "Jackie" just joined yesterday and has 2 posts total, me thinks we have a troll here.

    A person with a differing opinion is not a troll...maybe she was just compelled to post because of all the know-it-all attitudes present on this thread? Why not one more?
  • 10-18-2013, 06:50 PM
    sho220
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    And as a fellow animal enthusiast, I would advise you to study a lot more on the topic. Animal enthusiasts don't come up with their own solid views because they're stupid. And that includes you.

    You can't force me to change because I grew up with a whole country of dogs on raw food. You think they sell kibbles in the Philippines? Nope they don't. Unless you pay an arm and a leg for them at the fancy pet shops that sell shock collars and dog earrings. And we are quite active in the Kennel Club show rings.

    So people saying, "Don't feed your dog raw!"... is, to the rest of the world, just another American idiot.

    Well...that was out of left field...:rolleyes:
  • 10-18-2013, 06:57 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    A person with a differing opinion is not a troll...maybe she was just compelled to post because of all the know-it-all attitudes present on this thread? Why not one more?

    As a long ago poster (who no longer frequents this site) once lamented - going against dogma on forums automatically gets you out of the cool kid club. No pun intended with the use of the word "dogma".

    Too bad, Jack Spirko was a cool guy with lots of knowledge who often went against the current forum dogma and took a lot of heat. Be nice to hear from him again.

    Think it's bad here, go to a dog food forum and question raw, BARF, grain free, whatever and see how fast it escalates. There are a lot of dog food nazis in the world. I get a kick out of the pug owner whose dog is dysplastic, brachycephalic, entropic/ectropic, has a hypoplastic trachea, an elongated soft palate, inverted laryngeal saccules, luxating patella, stenotic nares, PRE, PDE, etc. and goes after the throat of a kibble feeder. Whatever.
  • 10-21-2013, 01:46 AM
    catzeye21138
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jackie View Post
    Science diet is a clinically proven good dog food. Don't buy in to blue buffalos gimmicks. Their advertisement for hollistic means nothing at all. They are a mid grade food charging you a lot of money. Stick with your purina ones or eukanubas before any food that advertises natural or hollistic. I swear by science diet, but all dogs are different! (Just please stay away from raw diets!)

    I worked at a vet clinic for a while, and volunteered at another, and the only damn reason they suggest it is because they get paid ridiculous amounts of money to do so. I've been to ONE vet clinic that didn't buy into it, and they had canidae or something like that.

    edit: Sorry, didn't see all of the troll talk before hand.
  • 10-21-2013, 02:19 AM
    satomi325
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catzeye21138 View Post
    I worked at a vet clinic for a while, and volunteered at another, and the only damn reason they suggest it is because they get paid ridiculous amounts of money to do so. I've been to ONE vet clinic that didn't buy into it, and they had canidae or something like that.

    .

    You're absolutely correct. Only reason for a vet to suggest feeding SD is because they're endorsed. And the nutrition courses at vet schools are sponsored by SD too.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
  • 10-21-2013, 10:09 AM
    anatess
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Why do you always assume that I'm addressing you in any of this?

    I ignored it the first time - when it was more than obvious that you felt my comments were directed at you. From here on out when I'm addressing your comments or your POV, I'll make sure you know.

    That way, you can give your severely wedged up panties a breather.

    And why do you get your panties in a twist when I address your post? So if you say ball pythons grow up to be 25 feet long, I'm supposed to just not correct it because it was addressed to the general public instead of directly to me?
  • 10-21-2013, 10:15 AM
    anatess
    Why we raw feeders here keep on talking is because somebody said not to feed their dog raw and she got supported by others.

    If you read EVERY SINGLE post from the raw feeders here... THEY NEVER ONCE SAID NOT TO FEED YOUR DOG KIBBLE. They just said Purina and Science Diet are not quality kibble. Which, if you would just spend one ounce of none-Purina/Hills supported research will lead you to the same conclusions.

    So, there is no attacking from the raw feeder camp here. We merely tried to inform y'all. Now, if you notice, all the scientific info presented in this thread is from the raw feeders who have spent a lot of time immersed in data. There is no scientific evidence presented in this thread that shows why dogs should not be fed raw.
  • 10-21-2013, 11:51 AM
    sorraia
    Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    Why we raw feeders here keep on talking is because somebody said not to feed their dog raw and she got supported by others.

    If you read EVERY SINGLE post from the raw feeders here... THEY NEVER ONCE SAID NOT TO FEED YOUR DOG KIBBLE. They just said Purina and Science Diet are not quality kibble. Which, if you would just spend one ounce of none-Purina/Hills supported research will lead you to the same conclusions.

    So, there is no attacking from the raw feeder camp here. We merely tried to inform y'all. Now, if you notice, all the scientific info presented in this thread is from the raw feeders who have spent a lot of time immersed in data. There is no scientific evidence presented in this thread that shows why dogs should not be fed raw.

    Just to add to all of this... In my experience raw feeders tend to get defensive (and thus present an overload of research they've done, as seen in this thread), for one simple reason: WE often get attacked for our choices, even when we are accepting of others' choices. Case in Point... the previous post saying "Just please stay away from raw diets!"
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