Jen Harrison Split from Big Daddy's Wholesale Thread

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Wrong again! I'm one of the dumbest people you'd ever meet.. And not ashamed to admit it.. I read the last part of your post. Its poppycock.. None of those people would show there faces on a reptile forum..

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If you honestly believe those people wouldn't show there faces on a reptile forum then your not as clever has I thought. Those people are probally already on this and several other forums taking notes. I'm sure they have been on this forum for quite alwhile now. They want post and let people know who they are, they will just be taking notes. So keep that in mind

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Originally Posted by tncorns

If you honestly believe those people wouldn't show there faces on a reptile forum then your not as clever has I thought. Those people are probally already on this and several other forums taking notes. I'm sure they have been on this forum for quite alwhile now. They want post and let people know who they are, they will just be taking notes. So keep that in mind

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They can kiss my arse!

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Are you ever going to get a clue? Say no one spoke up about this, Jen sells the animals to 3-4 people they intern sellt he same animals to 3-4 other people because they cant keep them for some reason or another. Then BAM! look who is sick all of a sudden. Tons of animals!! Just imagining that makes me sick.. Did I or anyone else say it will happen? No dont think so. DO YOU KNOW IT WONT???

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This is what this whole thing stems from, the unknown and the way Jen's account of the facts change from day to day to fit her story.

I'm still trying to figure out how ALL THREE vets gave her babies the all clear if she can't even get Dr. Jacobsen to return calls or emails? Where these babies tested or just treated? I'd also like to know where the proof is that this virus has been IDed!!! At this point I'm not taking Jen's word for what this is, she's been spinning the story to her liking, way to much and I want to see her vet's report that shows what this is and that it is 100% eradicated from her collection!

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Originally Posted by tncorns

If you honestly believe those people wouldn't show there faces on a reptile forum then your not as clever has I thought. Those people are probally already on this and several other forums taking notes. I'm sure they have been on this forum for quite alwhile now. They want post and let people know who they are, they will just be taking notes. So keep that in mind

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Your post above rather scares me.... :omfg: It's rather cryptic....
Are YOU "one of those people" (ie. feds with nothing better to do so why not be totalitarian?)
Good grief- well, if you are, then you can see that we are a responsible reptile community in that we will go the distance (at least 15 pages now) to try to keep a fellow snake hobbyist from selling off her potentially diseased reptiles.
That's good. Please remember, this is all we are trying to do.... :please:

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Originally Posted by tncorns

If you honestly believe those people wouldn't show there faces on a reptile forum then your not as clever has I thought. Those people are probally already on this and several other forums taking notes. I'm sure they have been on this forum for quite alwhile now. They want post and let people know who they are, they will just be taking notes. So keep that in mind

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Merely speculation presented as fact.

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Originally Posted by starmom

Your post above rather scares me.... :omfg: It's rather cryptic....
Are YOU "one of those people" (ie. feds with nothing better to do so why not be totalitarian?)
Good grief- well, if you are, then you can see that we are a responsible reptile community in that we will go the distance (at least 15 pages now) to try to keep a fellow snake hobbyist from selling off her potentially diseased reptiles.
That's good. Please remember, this is all we are trying to do.... :please:

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If I were one of those people do you really think I would be trying to worn everyone. If I was one of them I wouldn't have ever said a word in the first place, I would have just let this thread keep playing out. So to answer your question, No I'm not. I am a concerned reptile owner that enjoys the hobby and see that some things gets carried alittle out of hand and try to remind people that big brothers people could be and probally is lurking every where taking notes. Thats all I was saying.

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Are you ever going to get a clue? Say no one spoke up about this, Jen sells the animals to 3-4 people they intern sellt he same animals to 3-4 other people because they cant keep them for some reason or another. Then BAM! look who is sick all of a sudden. Tons of animals!! Just imagining that makes me sick.. Did I or anyone else say it will happen? No dont think so. DO YOU KNOW IT WONT???

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I never said I don't believe this, but with all the name calling and He said/she said, no newbie is going to make it past page 2 before they are bored with it and move on! What all was proved in the first 3 pages? A simple opinion and move on would be better. If you read my first professional post here I simply stated the facts I know on the subject!

It makes no sense to sit here and tell people if they buy a snake off of Jen their whole collection of snakes is going to die, unless you know for a fact it is going to happen!

Now to state that you personally would not risk purchasing a snake off Jen Harrison do to what she has disclosed about an sickness her snakes went through! That would be a true statement for me. It also leaves no room for debate.

All the unfounded he said/she said stuff just makes you look less credible in the eyes of a newbee. It also unfortunately makes the thread less credible also! :(

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Originally Posted by tncorns

If I were one of those people do you really think I would be trying to worn everyone. If I was one of them I wouldn't have ever said a word in the first place, I would have just let this thread keep playing out. So to answer your question, No I'm not. I am a concerned reptile owner that enjoys the hobby and see that some things gets carried alittle out of hand and try to remind people that big brothers people could be and probally is lurking every where taking notes. Thats all I was saying.

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Okay then. Cool. So, check this out: We are just the same! I am also a reptile owner and I am also concerned. I am concerned about regulation of our hobby by non-professionals. I am concerned about unethical treatment of animals. I am now concerned about Jen's choices and how those choices can negatively impact these snakes that we all hold dear.
Drama- yes. Jen is the only person who can end this. Either she provides indisputable proof of 100% health from the three doctors who have been dealing with this new and unknown virus, or she admits that she can not do this and shuts down her business, or she culls all remaining snakes, waits for some time, and begins again.
In my opinion, the longer she waits to make her choice, the more difficult it will be to get back the integrity she is giving away.
As for your own dreams of breeding, you have nothing to fear or worry about from the reptile community. We are all trying, every day, to do and be the very best people and reptile keepers that we know how to be. We do our best to grow personally and professionally. We do our best to apologize as quickly as possible when we understand that we've made a mistake. We all make mistakes. We all learn from each other. We all support each other.
It's just that what Jen is doing is putting lives in danger without the customer being aware of the risk and that can not be tolerated.

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

I never said I don't believe this, but with all the name calling and He said/she said, no newbie is going to make it past page 2 before they are bored with it and move on! What all was proved in the first 3 pages? A simple opinion and move on would be better. If you read my first professional post here I simply stated the facts I know on the subject!

It makes no sense to sit here and tell people if they buy a snake off of Jen their whole collection of snakes is going to die, unless you know for a fact it is going to happen!

Now to state that you personally would not risk purchasing a snake off Jen Harrison do to what she has disclosed about an sickness her snakes went through! That would be a true statement for me. It also leaves no room for debate.

All the unfounded he said/she said stuff just makes you look less credible in the eyes of a newbee. It also unfortunately makes the thread less credible also! :(

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You do realize I never started this as a thread right?? If I help ONE newbie out thats fine with me. The others can fend for themselves for all I care. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink..

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

I never said I don't believe this, but with all the name calling and He said/she said, no newbie is going to make it past page 2 before they are bored with it and move on! What all was proved in the first 3 pages? A simple opinion and move on would be better. If you read my first professional post here I simply stated the facts I know on the subject!

It makes no sense to sit here and tell people if they buy a snake off of Jen their whole collection of snakes is going to die, unless you know for a fact it is going to happen!

Now to state that you personally would not risk purchasing a snake off Jen Harrison do to what she has disclosed about an sickness her snakes went through! That would be a true statement for me. It also leaves no room for debate.

All the unfounded he said/she said stuff just makes you look less credible in the eyes of a newbee. It also unfortunately makes the thread less credible also! :(

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Try your best to not minimize the deadly virus that all but wiped out Jen's collection of ball pythons. You are on her forum; haven't you read her page after page of illness that her snakes went through before they died? Granted, she slanted it toward the human emotion of loss, but if you let go that drama, the snakes suffered terribly and then died.
No one vet has given the all clear- or Jen would have that document posted everywhere. But she still decided to sell. *That* is the drama.