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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
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Originally Posted by qiksilver
this isnt really going anywhere.
Hehe, nor will it ever go anywhere, as too many people are arguing from a purely emotional standpoint and logic will never enter that realm.
I think Ben made an excellent point that seems to have been ignored by almost everyone. What's to stop those who think bunnies and rats are adorable from making it cruelty for those to be fed?
If the man is being charged with cruelty for the neglect of the snake, I support that. Otherwise, it's a threat to the herp world in general.
Scientists Don't Like Mice
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
I think in society it's became the norm to know that people with snakes feed these types of food to thier snakes(mice/rats/rabbits/ect.)..It's not the norm to be feeding puppies..And i would tend to believe thier are people who care and like rats as pets on this very site, as we do our snakes...that also understand the natural prey for the most part our these animal that they love so much. so the out look on snakes eating them isnt the same as a puppy.just my :2cent:
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Originally Posted by SarahMB
Hehe, nor will it ever go anywhere, as too many people are arguing from a purely emotional standpoint and logic will never enter that realm.
I think Ben made an excellent point that seems to have been ignored by almost everyone. What's to stop those who think bunnies and rats are adorable from making it cruelty for those to be fed?
If the man is being charged with cruelty for the neglect of the snake, I support that. Otherwise, it's a threat to the herp world in general.
Scientists Don't Like Mice
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
Societal norms change all the time. When I was little (anecdotal evidence time!), it was perfectly acceptable in my community to drown bags of unwanted kittens or puppies. These days that will get you jail time.
Personally, I like my rats much better than any dogs. Yes, it does upset me that people feed rats, but I wouldn't want to restrict their right to do so. Others out there will want to do just that, though. What is that saying about "first they came for my neighbor, and I did nothing...then they came for me and no one was left to do anything..."? Something like that, anyway.
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
as will feeding a puppy to a snake..I wouldnt want to restrict anyones right of anything, as those people should not restrict the laws right to put them in jail. in this case for feeding off a puppy..
just sayin..:D
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Originally Posted by SarahMB
Societal norms change all the time. When I was little (anecdotal evidence time!), it was perfectly acceptable in my community to drown bags of unwanted kittens or puppies. These days that will get you jail time.
Personally, I like my rats much better than any dogs. Yes, it does upset me that people feed rats, but I wouldn't want to restrict their right to do so. Others out there will want to do just that, though. What is that saying about "first they came for my neighbor, and I did nothing...then they came for me and no one was left to do anything..."? Something like that, anyway.
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
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Originally Posted by jar2476
as will feeding a puppy to a snake..I wouldnt want to restrict anyones right of anything, as those people should not restrict the laws right to put them in jail. in this case for feeding off a puppy..
This doesn't make any sense to me...
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
dogs are protected by law unlike most other animals such as cats and others. If you hit one with your car you have to report it.
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
I just want to say that what some peoples morals are aren't what others morals are. I'm not sure everyone is taking this into consideration. Just because you think it is wrong to feed a dog to a snake and somehow different from feeding a rat/rabbit/mouse to a snake doesn't mean everyone thinks that way. Neither does this mean that either is right or wrong. This argument will go on forever because everyone has different morals and opinions and no one is changing theres based on what someone else says. So I think we are just arguing in circles.
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
i have to admit.... i did not read all 15 pages of this thread.... but, wow. i know that if you take an objective look at it, feeding a dog to a snake really isn't any worse than a rat, chicken, rabbit, etc. but it really just seems wrong to me. i can't imagine watching my snake eat a puppy. let alone inviting the neighbor kids over to watch the show!
and cooking oil??? i guess i don't know much about this, but i can't see how that would be very good for a snake.....
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
One more thing was the dog live or dead?
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Re: Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?
i feel the same way. whats is the big deal with it as i don't see it as beig cruel to any animal that is feed to a snake because that is what they eat live prey that they kill and eat. now was it wrong to feed a dog to a snake yes but not cruel. right now down in Florida there are burms and gators that are feeding on dogs it's in there nature to feed and the snake could care less if it's a dog rat or what ever as long as it's feed.
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Originally Posted by Gooseman
That man is flipping insane to feed a puppy to a 8ft boa, oh heck, a snake of any size. Let alone to coat it in cooking oil and have two teenagers watch presumably for the sole purpose of amusement.
However, playing devils advocate, how is feeding a puppy any more cruel than feeding a rat or bunny or fetal pigs? Do dogs have that extra layer of feelings that other animals don't thus making it worthy of charging him with animal cruelty? I am by far not saying people should even consider feeding their snakes dogs, but to me the essence of that law seems bogus. I think people who do feed like this have a few screws loose and probably shouldn't be owning pets anyways (taking into point the fact the boa was taken from his possession due to neglect).
The only thing in this case that I believe worth prosecuting is the coating of oil and the show he put on for the teenagers.
JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I DO NOT SUPPORT HIM FEEDING PUPPIES! I THINK IT'S SICK, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT'S LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO PROSECUTE HIM FOR DOING SO
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