What's this??

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Originally Posted by J.Vandegrift

Between them taking so long to exit the egg, the cord wrapped baby, the weak one, and the dead ones, something must have been off at some point during the incubation. Could have been too wet, too dry, maybe your thermostat is off... could have been a bunch of things. Just my opinion but incubation issues have been been know to result in some crazy hatchlings. Hopefully I am wrong. Either way it's a sweet looking snake.

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This is what I have been saying the entire time. Something just isn't right.

I would buy a new thermometer or two and re-check your temps. What T-stat are your using on this incubator?

I'm terribly sorry for your losses w/ this clutch. I hope the remaining animals do okay for you. Please keep us updated.

I check the temperature by having three thermometers in the incubator at the same time so that I'm able to tell if it's okay.
And if her babies do survive, there are two pastels and two normals alive, would it be better to breed her with one of them?

Too bad that interesting looking little one didn't make it. :(

Personally, I would repeat the same pairing next year. Since you have no real knowledge as to what is going on, you don't know if you might be eliminating the interesting genes (if it is genetic at all) by pairing the mother with one of her offspring.

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Originally Posted by kc261

Personally, I would repeat the same pairing next year. Since you have no real knowledge as to what is going on, you don't know if you might be eliminating the interesting genes (if it is genetic at all) by pairing the mother with one of her offspring.

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I agree. I would do then same pairing again.

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Originally Posted by DemmBalls

I agree. I would do then same pairing again.

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+1 to this. I know it sucks losing such interesting animals but I wouldn't just leave this to "something wrong with incubation". If it happens again you know not to pair them again, unless of course you get something that survives without issues.

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Dude, that''s so sad. Poor little guy. I'll be interested to see the others grow up, though, so make sure you keep us up to date with pictures!

If it died before the coloring stage of it's life, wouldn't it just stop at that color? It wouldn't loose the color it already had would it? I am wondering this because I am thinking that maybe it was just a pastel that died in the egg before all of it's coloring was complete. I know I read in the post that the eggs might have been cut open a little to early. I am not criticizing you for this I am just trying to ask questions so that I and others might not run into the same problem down the road. I still think that it was one nice looking snake.

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Originally Posted by Clint Bundy

If it died before the coloring stage of it's life, wouldn't it just stop at that color? It wouldn't loose the color it already had would it? I am wondering this because I am thinking that maybe it was just a pastel that died in the egg before all of it's coloring was complete. I know I read in the post that the eggs might have been cut open a little to early. I am not criticizing you for this I am just trying to ask questions so that I and others might not run into the same problem down the road. I still think that it was one nice looking snake.

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I would think this, but only a few of them died. After a few days, most naturally slithered out of their respective eggs. Even this little guy came out! Also, his cutting time was pretty on time...not enormously early. He said himself he's had many successful clutches cut at the length he did.

But obviously something went wrong...sigh. :(

heyim sorry to hear tht the baby didnt make it but i think i found a close id to the morph mabe an axanthic bumble bee or a spider killer bee axanthic just from the pics ive seen the pattern is simmalar except for the completely white head
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ic-bumble-bee/
looks really simular hope for the rest to be well:gj:

The rest of the clutch seems to be ok.
I`ll upload some pictures once the babies have shed for the first time.

I have always cut the eggs on day 55 and there has never been any problems before.
But I will wait until day 60 before I cut the next clutch,they are currently on day 47.
I will write how it goes........

I will do the same pairing next season and hope for the best,if the results are the same I know that it`s something genetic and then I have to try with another male.