My dealings with MKR

So if I came on here and said "bite me" unprovoked, in a new thread, you'd be totally cool calling that user a positive part of this community? Judy, come on....

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36477&page=3&pp=10



Finally got to read what I assume was her original thread about this experience.

Maybe I am reading this wrong, but her original thread above was going great, everyone was getting along, lots of laughs, everyone was joking and having a good time. Right up until the point where she was asked "Who is the breeder you are buying from?".

She did not even have to name MKR and the mood changed, posts began to take a different turn, she politely asked the thread be closed and the posts continued.

Am I reading this wrong or is there something else to the story line?

everyone will express their own opinions on forums. ethics and morals will help to form those opinions, at least mine do.


when people disagree, things can get heated and personal

when money is involved, it can get nasty.

people are free to do whatever, when a majority of participating members don't have the same view, things will get heated on this forum.

mkr has their own forum where people that support them and their values and ethics can go and "agree"

in a way when you support a breeder you are agreeing to their way of business and ethics and values, imo.

there are many different forums on all kinds of topics on the interenet, not just reptiles. i find it more fun and peaceful to participate in forums where i share common ground and beliefs with the majority.


vaughn

the mood didn't change. we were joking around before hand and we continued after. it wasn't until she posted for us to "piss off" (in her now 'usual' fashion) that there was even a negative post in the thread.

how often do people go off on a tangent on this site? uh every 5 posts perhaps LOL - that's all we were doing was joking around... she got defensive for her own reasons. i asked her (and i quote)

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jessie,

if you feel good about your purchase then why are you getting so upset? if i believe in what i'm doing... i'm right there, sharing my opinions and explaining my motives.

i'd love to hear yours
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in light,
Aleesha

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and she in turn posted:

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I am posting a thread about this. The answer to your question Goddess is to long so look for the new thread.

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hence... this thread emerged.

and i don't find anything polite about telling people to piss off. if my kids said that to me, they'd be grounded... in our home it's as bad as saying any other "adult words" which are censored on this site.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

So if I came on here and said "bite me" unprovoked, in a new thread, you'd be totally cool calling that user a positive part of this community? Judy, come on....

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First off, that's not even close to why you called her "blackballed." Second off, I think it's a very poor way for her to express herself and I said so. Third off, everyone has "off" days and sometimes come across on the forums as less than stellar...that's no reason to suddenly decide they are worthless to the community. As I said...you're certainly entitled to your personal opinion about her or any other member...but you can't speak for the whole community by saying any given person is or is not welcomed here.

All that said, I'd also like to address something Vaughn said:

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people are free to do whatever, when a majority of participating members don't have the same view, things will get heated on this forum.

mkr has their own forum where people that support them and their values and ethics can go and "agree"

in a way when you support a breeder you are agreeing to their way of business and ethics and values, imo.

there are many different forums on all kinds of topics on the interenet, not just reptiles. i find it more fun and peaceful to participate in forums where i share common ground and beliefs with the majority.

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This reminds me a lot of the whole RTB.net conflict. If someone is so passionate against live feeding that they can't stand the thought of fellow forum members doing so...then they may not be so happy at BP.net and RTB is the place for them.

If any of our members are so passionate about MKR that they can't tolerate the fact that most of their fellow members of BP.net will steadfastly stand against their business practices....then maybe they should rethink which forums they want to invest their time and emotional energies on. This is not to say that ANYbody is unwelcomed here...because that is not the case at all. I would be deeply saddened to see ANY of our members feeling as if they should leave. But if you're not comfortable with the stance of the majority... :confuzd:

kinda like... if i hate heat and sand i shouldn't move to las vegas ;)

unless of course i want to live inside the mall and shop constantly and be driven back to my penthouse suite with airconditioning! (and chocolate covered oreos!!!)

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

kinda like... if i hate heat and sand i shouldn't move to las vegas ;)

unless of course i want to live inside the mall

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Ahh yes my wife's home away from home (work and play).;)

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Originally Posted by JLC

All that said, I'd also like to address something Vaughn said:



This reminds me a lot of the whole RTB.net conflict. If someone is so passionate against live feeding that they can't stand the thought of fellow forum members doing so...then they may not be so happy at BP.net and RTB is the place for them.

If any of our members are so passionate about MKR that they can't tolerate the fact that most of their fellow members of BP.net will steadfastly stand against their business practices....then maybe they should rethink which forums they want to invest their time and emotional energies on. This is not to say that ANYbody is unwelcomed here...because that is not the case at all. I would be deeply saddened to see ANY of our members feeling as if they should leave. But if you're not comfortable with the stance of the majority... :confuzd:

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Exactly right! If you feel that strongly about MKR, their forum is probably a welcome place to be. I'm not going to bring MKR up in every thread that she posts from now on, but, I will be completely honest and say that I think anyone that buys from MKR after hearing and seeing what they are doing to the market isn't someone I want to have anything to do with. Getting a bargain basement price is great but in the end, it isn't the only thing. Quality animals from breeders that want to support you and your future are where its at. If you (and by you I mean the short list of people who don't appear to have the capability or desire to consider the facts and who continue to support sleaze) put saving a few bucks at the top of your list of priorities as a breeder, then you are doomed to fail. For those of you that consider this post harsh, sorry you are offended. I have very strong feelings about the situation as do most of the other people on this forum that are disgusted by MKR and their lack of ethics.

Well I can assure you saving a few bucks isn't the top priority of mine. I am mesmerized everytime I see one of their morphs and I beleive they have good quality animals along with great customer service...

Have a good day

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Well I can assure you saving a few bucks isn't the top priority of mine. I am mesmerized everytime I see one of their morphs and I beleive they have good quality animals along with great customer service...

Have a good day

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I am sure that is what it is, because they are the only ones selling "nice looking" morphs... :rockon: