Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

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No christening retic tsunami pics?? lol.

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Dude, it was foul hahah! Had to clean that up post haste! 5 days on the dot for her standard elimination cycle... probably have to feed tomorrow or look at a smashed retic face


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Hahaha. Yeah I'm thawing a huge guinea pig for Caesar right now. Unfortunately the place is out of rabbits right now. Think my next investment is the chest freezer once i get Pat's cage set up.

His 3-4XL guinea pig cost me $19......i NEED that chest freezer lol. I am starting to feel the pain in the price.

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His 3-4XL guinea pig cost me $19......i NEED that chest freezer lol. I am starting to feel the pain in the price.

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$19?!?!? [emoji15]
Rodent Pro isn’t the best of the online f/t options imo but, dude, their 4xl guinea pigs are like $5. It would be worth it just to order like 6 from them at a time and nothing else compared to $19 a pop! And that would still be like a 50% decrease in cost
I’ve been telling you for like a year hahah... could have saved enough to buy six more snakes and raise them all for two years with the savings you’d have accumulated lol



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$19?!?!? [emoji15]
Rodent Pro isn’t the best of the online f/t options imo but, dude, their 4xl guinea pigs are like $5. It would be worth it just to order like 6 from them at a time and nothing else compared to $19 a pop! And that would still be like a 50% decrease in cost
I’ve been telling you for like a year hahah... could have saved enough to buy six more snakes and raise them all for two years with the savings you’d have accumulated lol



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I'd swear at you but i dont want an infraction haha. I know i need a chest freezer. Didnt really dawn on me when Caesar tiny and eating little food. Even Rosey and Vicky only eat large rats so their food is only like $9-10 but with Caesar's fat behind, he packs it in like a guy in a dress shoplifting at the grocery store. I still probably have to wait 2 months as i still got to pay off Pat's cage, the RHP, the perch holders and water bowl holders from S3D, the plants and the manzanita perches. But trust me, after todays cost, a small chest freezer is top on the list. Another GTP, BHP, SD retic or whatever else is going to be put on the back burner lol. Plus i have been eyeballing this REALLY nice Smith & Wesson Model 629 Performance Center snubnose 44 magnum. So that is on my list now too lol.

And Rodent Pro is out of the question for me. Heard too many bad stories about them. I'm sure they are fine now but i dont want to risk it. I plan to only use either Perfect Prey, Monster Feeders, Layne Labs or Big Cheese. Or possibly Glacier Rodents as they are local here.

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I'd swear at you but i dont want an infraction haha. I know i need a chest freezer. Didnt really dawn on me when Caesar tiny and eating little food. Even Rosey and Vicky only eat large rats so their food is only like $9-10 but with Caesar's fat behind, he packs it in like a guy in a dress shoplifting at the grocery store. I still probably have to wait 2 months as i still got to pay off Pat's cage, the RHP, the perch holders and water bowl holders from S3D, the plants and the manzanita perches. But trust me, after todays cost, a small chest freezer is top on the list. Another GTP, BHP, SD retic or whatever else is going to be put on the back burner lol. Plus i have been eyeballing this REALLY nice Smith & Wesson Model 629 Performance Center snubnose 44 magnum. So that is on my list now too lol.

And Rodent Pro is out of the question for me. Heard too many bad stories about them. I'm sure they are fine now but i dont want to risk it. I plan to only use either Perfect Prey, Monster Feeders, Layne Labs or Big Cheese. Or possibly Glacier Rodents as they are local here.

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Lol I was just giving you a hard time buddy. But for real, once you get a freezer and order online it will change your world. Hell, even for me it would be worth it to order a single bag of 20 small rats at a time for Geoffrey as they’re $5 locally. Cheaper to order a single bag and pay $30 shipping than to buy the same amount at the pet shop here


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Lol I was just giving you a hard time buddy. But for real, once you get a freezer and order online it will change your world. Hell, even for me it would be worth it to order a single bag of 20 small rats at a time for Geoffrey as they’re $5 locally. Cheaper to order a single bag and pay $30 shipping than to buy the same amount at the pet shop here


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Lol i know. Was kidding about the swearing part. Funny part is even the guy at the pet shop told me i should buy a chest freezer haha. Oh if i had one, i would have a lot to order. Small rats, weaned rats, adult mice, large fuzzy mice, large rats, small rabbits, 4XL guinea pigs, jumbo rats, quails. Hopefully in a couple months after i get all the stuff for Pat's cage and get everything paid off, I'll be getting that chest freezer.

Already made himself at home! Love how wonderful he is and so easily adjusted to a new home.

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Moments before I narrowly avoided a tsunami of piss and deuce on the couch. Just redirected her tail to the floor. Thankfully it was in the living room, the snake room is carpeted.
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Already made himself at home! Love how wonderful he is and so easily adjusted to a new home.

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She... her name is Phyllis


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My apologies

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She... her name is Phyllis


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Gerald is his male SD.

He's got two of these SD critters :)

Four days after feeding and already pooped. Usually she at least makes it to day 5. I swear, keeping two retics is like taking care of a dozen of any other snake species


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Four days after feeding and already pooped. Usually she at least makes it to day 5. I swear, keeping two retics is like taking care of a dozen of any other snake species


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Dude,

That sucks. I just don't have those issues. I may get a little more waste, but not a lot.

Wallace can be a bit pitchy in the cage, but he's a pretty good captive I must say.

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Four days after feeding and already pooped. Usually she at least makes it to day 5. I swear, keeping two retics is like taking care of a dozen of any other snake species


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Lol, Caesar pooped out the huge guinea pig i gave him on friday, last night. He went 5 days on that monster food. But my god, the size of turd i found last night rivels mine lol. Picking it up with a paper towel was like picking up a medium rats haha. And Caesar usually makes it to about day 4-5 before a poop as well. Pat is the same way. In one end and out the other in about 4 days. I think it's just pythons except for BPs lol.

Installed perches for queen push face today. So far she seems to enjoy them. Might reinstall them an inch lower at some point when I go back to using the RHP in colder months but for now it seems to be keeping her distracted from pushing hopefully. She was going at it pretty forcefully earlier
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Installed perches for queen push face today. So far she seems to enjoy them. Might reinstall them an inch lower at some point when I go back to using the RHP in colder months but for now it seems to be keeping her distracted from pushing hopefully. She was going at it pretty forcefully earlier
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LOVE IT!!!

Well done!

I think you are on the right track.

I know for a fact these retics, young and old are a lot more arboreal than they are said to be by some folks.

She looks rather pleased there JM!

Display snake city!

I'm entertained just by looking at that!

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Originally Posted by Gio

LOVE IT!!!

Well done!

I think you are on the right track.

I know for a fact these retics, young and old are a lot more arboreal than they are said to be by some folks.

She looks rather pleased there JM!

Display snake city!

I'm entertained just by looking at that!

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Thanks brother! Right after this she went right back to pushing at the doors though... [emoji37]🤬🤬🤬[emoji216][emoji216]
She played on them for a good 30 minutes at least. I emailed Ed at constrictors nw to ask about a cage but haven’t gotten a response. How quick is he to respond? Also emailed AP about a similar design. Basically want the height and width of your cage at 8’ long, also modular. Whoever quotes me the better deal gets this cage order haha. Kinda want AP just so everything matches but it depends on how close they can design/cut it to my specifications.
Either way I may go with swinging doors instead of sliding. Curious to see if eliminating the air gap between the sliding doors for Phyllis changes where or how she pushes. Since the acrylic doors with fit flush inside a recessed cage front my theory is that she would at lest push elsewhere? I think she pushes on the right side of the car post currently is because she can get the best face wrecking leverage from that spot [emoji31]


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Jeez, auto correct did a bang up job on that last post...
*would fit flush *center post


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I emailed Ed at constrictors nw to ask about a cage but haven’t gotten a response. How quick is he to respond? Also emailed AP about a similar design.

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I thought Ed closed his cage store and doesn't do it any longer?

Man she's so cool and those perches look awesome!! Are they just dowels on some kind of bracket or closet hardware? I would really like to do something similar

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

I thought Ed closed his cage store and doesn't do it any longer?

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That’s what i thought too, but Gio got a cage from him not that long ago? Maybe because Gio is an established customer. 🤷:cens0r:♂️



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I think Ed is moving, that is why he closed up cage shop for right now. Or at least that is what i heard.

He also was selling off a bunch of his used cages to cut down on stuff to move...or again, so i heard.

And looks good with the perches. Phyllis doesnt use her shelf? I know Caesar loves his shelf and spends a good amount of time curled up on it.

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Man she's so cool and those perches look awesome!! Are they just dowels on some kind of bracket or closet hardware? I would really like to do something similar

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Thank you!
The set up is 90* corner brackets and tree stakes. Was going to use fence posts but the were a bit unwieldy for the amount of space in the cage with the shelf included. The center of both perches are 5” apart so she can climb between and over them at the same time if wanted. ~3.5” maybe between the closest points of the posts


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Thanks brother! Right after this she went right back to pushing at the doors though... [emoji37]🤬🤬🤬[emoji216][emoji216]
She played on them for a good 30 minutes at least. I emailed Ed at constrictors nw to ask about a cage but haven’t gotten a response. How quick is he to respond? Also emailed AP about a similar design. Basically want the height and width of your cage at 8’ long, also modular. Whoever quotes me the better deal gets this cage order haha. Kinda want AP just so everything matches but it depends on how close they can design/cut it to my specifications.
Either way I may go with swinging doors instead of sliding. Curious to see if eliminating the air gap between the sliding doors for Phyllis changes where or how she pushes. Since the acrylic doors with fit flush inside a recessed cage front my theory is that she would at lest push elsewhere? I think she pushes on the right side of the car post currently is because she can get the best face wrecking leverage from that spot [emoji31]


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Remember, swing doors cant be done in glass so you would have to get lexan or acrylic. I originally had Pat's T5 set up as a single swing door but i called Ali and changed it to sliding glass. I really hate acrylic doors after my Proline cage. Rosey struck the door once and she must have gotten a tooth or something on it and it put a nice scratch line about 3 inches down the right side.

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Remember, swing doors cant be done in glass so you would have to get lexan or acrylic. I originally had Pat's T5 set up as a single swing door but i called Ali and changed it to sliding glass. I really hate acrylic doors after my Proline cage. Rosey struck the door once and she must have gotten a tooth or something on it and it put a nice scratch line about 3 inches down the right side.

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Oh I know... just not sure if a modular cage in two 4’ sections would be easily done with sliding doors, unless it was two doors on both 4x’ halves. Ideally I want two four foot cages with a singe door on either side bolted together haha


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Oh I know... just not sure if a modular cage in two 4’ sections would be easily done with sliding doors, unless it was two doors on both 4x’ halves. Ideally I want two four foot cages with a singe door on either side bolted together haha


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I hear ya. But remember, you are talking 4 feet on each side. When i talked to Ali about the T5 with a single swing door and how they keep the roof from sagging while using a single swing door, she told me Mark actually builds the perimeter of the door bigger. So instead of having the same size opening as the sliding glass doors, it will have a smaller opening as the borders need to be thicker.

Also if you were wondering about replacing a scratched acrylic door, i talked to Ali about that too. She said, you can knock the pins out of the hinges and they send a new acrylic door with half the hinges bolted to the acrylic. So you just line both halves from the front frame to the door and push the pins back in.

I bug Ali a lot about stuff lol. I also talked to her about bolting cages together and ideas there but thats another story. My phone bill is a expensive whenever i talk to Ali at AP hahaha.

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I hear ya. But remember, you are talking 4 feet on each side. When i talked to Ali about the T5 with a single swing door and how they keep the roof from sagging while using a single swing door, she told me Mark actually builds the perimeter of the door bigger. So instead of having the same size opening as the sliding glass doors, it will have a smaller opening as the borders need to be thicker.

Also if you were wondering about replacing a scratched acrylic door, i talked to Ali about that too. She said, you can knock the pins out of the hinges and they send a new acrylic door with half the hinges bolted to the acrylic. So you just line both halves from the front frame to the door and push the pins back in.

I bug Ali a lot about stuff lol. I also talked to her about bolting cages together and ideas there but thats another story. My phone bill is a expensive whenever i talk to Ali at AP hahaha.

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I don’t think I’d mind a smaller opening as long as that meant I would only have one post between the doors as opposed to the three post total that would result from bolting two T13s together ya know?


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I don’t think I’d mind a smaller opening as long as that meant I would only have one post between the doors as opposed to the three post total that would result from bolting two T13s together ya know?


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Yeah. Hopefully they can do a single swing door on a 4 foot cage but you'll find out as well as all of us im guessing :)

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Installed perches for queen push face today. So far she seems to enjoy them. Might reinstall them an inch lower at some point when I go back to using the RHP in colder months but for now it seems to be keeping her distracted from pushing hopefully. She was going at it pretty forcefully earlier
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Ooooo.... Me likes! Just need one twice that size for Rainbow now. Looks great. Love the perch also. Looks like she does as well.

Hey. I had no idea about Ed. I got my cage over a year ago but waited to set up

Don’t worry about plexiglass windows. They are great and mine look brand new. One cage is already 5 years old.

Totally bummed she is pushing again.

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I think Ed is moving, that is why he closed up cage shop for right now. Or at least that is what i heard.

He also was selling off a bunch of his used cages to cut down on stuff to move...or again, so i heard.

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Ahh okay, thanks! He's been so absent from his forum and then when I saw the 'cage shop closed' a few weeks back I figured he was going to just focus on his breedings instead. Thanks for the info! Wish I had known about his selling off a bunch of used caging.

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Thanks brother! Right after this she went right back to pushing at the doors though...

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I showed the pics last night to my bf because the cage looks great with her up on the perch and I was explaining why and his comment was 'that's not going to stop the pushing' and then I saw your comment quoted above and was sad. His advice, which I assume based on the photos you've shared, I think you already do, was to 'take her out more'. I asked about the air gap thing and he also doesn't think that will really matter. I'm sorry I don't have any better ideas. I wanted to share his thoughts since he's much more familiar with tics than I am.

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Totally bummed she is pushing again.

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She never actually stopped. I’ve just gotten lucky and made it to 5-6days before she goes bonkers recently


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I showed the pics last night to my bf because the cage looks great with her up on the perch and I was explaining why and his comment was 'that's not going to stop the pushing' and then I saw your comment quoted above and was sad. His advice, which I assume based on the photos you've shared, I think you already do, was to 'take her out more'. I asked about the air gap thing and he also doesn't think that will really matter. I'm sorry I don't have any better ideas. I wanted to share his thoughts since he's much more familiar with tics than I am.

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Thanks April. She did immediately crawl in her hide and go to sleep after I had her out for an hour or so last night. Let her cruise the whole apartment. I guess she just needs to have at least an hour of free time a day to (hopefully) get her to chill out


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Originally Posted by Sauzo

I think Ed is moving, that is why he closed up cage shop for right now. Or at least that is what i heard.

He also was selling off a bunch of his used cages to cut down on stuff to move...or again, so i heard.

And looks good with the perches. Phyllis doesnt use her shelf? I know Caesar loves his shelf and spends a good amount of time curled up on it.

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She doesn’t use the shelf too often but it’s still in there. She barely fits on he shelf anymore


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Originally Posted by jmcrook

She doesn’t use the shelf too often but it’s still in there. She barely fits on he shelf anymore


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That’s one big SD. Female I know but even still the girth is like a boa.

You may need to build a nice indoor climbing tree for her. Let her out and go crazy for a few hours. Handle her a lot and wear her down.

Even still the perches look great in there. Much better than just a shelf.

You know man, with all the pushing she does, it almost seems like there is something wrong with the set up like incorrect temps or humidity etc. I know you got it all set up right but you know how when a snake isnt happy, they try and get out. Dottie did it when i used cypress on her. The boas love it but Dottie hates cypress. She was out pushing all over the front of the cage. The day i switched her back to a coco husk(in this case Reptile Prime), she was quiet and went back to sleep in her hide. Caesar and Rosey are the same way with humidity. When i put fresh cypress in and it spikes really high with condensation on the glass, both Rosey and Caesar will push like crazy. Once i open a door and let them sit there with their heads on the litter dams, they quiet right down and after about an hour, they usually curl up by the open door and go to sleep or go into a hide and sleep. So i'm wondering if maybe something like a build up of heat or humidity might be causing her to go crazy and once you open the door and let her out, she cools down or dries out a little and is happy again. Just grasping at straws as like i said, Caesar and Rosey both do that.

For example, this morning when i got up, Caesar was pushing like crazy and the cage had condensation all over the glass. I opened the door and after caesar sat on the litter dam for awhile, he ended up going to sleep like this.....
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You know man, with all the pushing she does, it almost seems like there is something wrong with the set up like incorrect temps or humidity etc. I know you got it all set up right but you know how when a snake isnt happy, they try and get out. Dottie did it when i used cypress on her. The boas love it but Dottie hates cypress. She was out pushing all over the front of the cage. The day i switched her back to a coco husk(in this case Reptile Prime), she was quiet and went back to sleep in her hide. Caesar and Rosey are the same way with humidity. When i put fresh cypress in and it spikes really high with condensation on the glass, both Rosey and Caesar will push like crazy. Once i open a door and let them sit there with their heads on the litter dams, they quiet right down and after about an hour, they usually curl up by the open door and go to sleep or go into a hide and sleep. So i'm wondering if maybe something like a build up of heat or humidity might be causing her to go crazy and once you open the door and let her out, she cools down or dries out a little and is happy again. Just grasping at straws as like i said, Caesar and Rosey both do that.

For example, this morning when i got up, Caesar was pushing like crazy and the cage had condensation all over the glass. I opened the door and after caesar sat on the litter dam for awhile, he ended up going to sleep like this.....
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Yeah I’ve got no idea at this point. The ambient temp is a tad warmer but it still only tops out at 79-80* air temps with the apt set at 73-75. I’d like it to get down to 75 but I’d have to crank the AC in the apt down to like 68-70*... not doing that because Mississippi gets stupid hot and I’d end up with a $300 utility bill or something crazy. Plus when it’s 100* outside 70* inside feels absolutely freezing
I let her out for an hour again earlier and she’s been sleeping in her cool hide since I put her away. Maybe a twice daily free run of the apt will keep her happy, who knows. Or maybe scale back to large or xl rats and feed every 5 days... I’m out of ideas


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Crochet a little stocking with a face mask with just eye holes and a little hole for her tongue to shoot out of and put it on her lol. Kind of like when you were a kid and your parents taped socks to your hands to keep you from scratching when you had chicken pox.

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Yeah I’ve got no idea at this point. The ambient temp is a tad warmer but it still only tops out at 79-80* air temps with the apt set at 73-75. I’d like it to get down to 75 but I’d have to crank the AC in the apt down to like 68-70*... not doing that because Mississippi gets stupid hot and I’d end up with a $300 utility bill or something crazy. Plus when it’s 100* outside 70* inside feels absolutely freezing
I let her out for an hour again earlier and she’s been sleeping in her cool hide since I put her away. Maybe a twice daily free run of the apt will keep her happy, who knows. Or maybe scale back to large or xl rats and feed every 5 days... I’m out of ideas


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I guarantee its not all about food. "Experienced keepers" may have their ideas, but NO snake in the wild, no matter what the species is lucky enough to eat weekly or biweekly. It just doesn't happen.

You have a SD or at the very least a dwarf retic. The biology behind that animal comes with seasonal food intake based on the migratory habits of the animals around it.

Sure you can feed a snake into inactivity, but I 100% disagree with that approach, and so will people that actually study these animals.

You are doing the right thing by exploring other avenues! Retics are not some special species that are so different from every other snake species that you have to go back to the drawing board to figure out care requirements for them.

Maybe recheck the sex of your snake and make double certain you don't have a male vs male combat situation going on.

I can honestly say, I don't have any issues with my retic over any other snake in the house. Carpet, Royal or Boa Constrictor. They all have very similar care requirements.

You WILL succeed, I know you will.

She is big and beautiful, but still a cold blooded reptile with millions of years of programed instincts that don't fully change in captivity,

I honestly hate to see her suffer with pushing while you try to figure things out.

Sending positive vibes your way brother!

Thank you Gio! If she keeps it up I’m putting her in a T8 for a week or two and monitoring the results. I’ll just trade her and Gerald’s cages for a bit. That’s my last idea before investing in a huge cage to see if the opposite approach works.


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Thank you Gio! If she keeps it up I’m putting her in a T8 for a week or two and monitoring the results. I’ll just trade her and Gerald’s cages for a bit. That’s my last idea before investing in a huge cage to see if the opposite approach works.


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Best of luck.

Try PMing Cody if he’s still around. He’s got the biology degree and a background with the SD and dwarf stuff.

Wallace is a bit of a spazz with the warmer temps here but just feed response stuff on non feeding days.

I’m going to make him wait a bit for his next meal.

He’s been perched for 48 hours with his head hanging off the branch.

I may drop a live rat in for him Tuesday.

I think your girl needs at least 2 feet of vertical spcace.

Keeping my thoughts and electron positive vibes going your way 👍💪🏻

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Best of luck.

Try PMing Cody if he’s still around. He’s got the biology degree and a background with the SD and dwarf stuff.

Wallace is a bit of a spazz with the warmer temps here but just feed response stuff on non feeding days.

I’m going to make him wait a bit for his next meal.

He’s been perched for 48 hours with his head hanging off the branch.

I may drop a live rat in for him Tuesday.

I think your girl needs at least 2 feet of vertical spcace.

Keeping my thoughts and electron positive vibes going your way 👍💪🏻

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Why would you feed live when your snake takes FT? There are no pros to it and only cons, especially as the rats become bigger.

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Why would you feed live when your snake takes FT? There are no pros to it and only cons, especially as the rats become bigger.

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Because the royal only eats live and refuses on occasion. When that’s the case another animal will get the refused meal. I’m well aware of what’s involved in feeding live and don’t make it a practice except for the royal.


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Dang man, no need to get all testy lol. NM then, i'll just quit even inquiring and just just be a wall flower......guess my questions just irritate you. I'll just leave you be and keep my comments and questions myself

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Dang man, no need to get all testy lol. NM then, i'll just quit even inquiring and just just be a wall flower......guess my questions just irritate you. I'll just leave you be and keep my comments and questions myself

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I think you know me well enough to know how I feed. Your question appeared condescending and somewhat inflammatory since you posted it publicly. If you wanted to know the answer as to why you could have PM’d me.

I have posted countless times about the royal eating only live and often refusing. The next step is moving the prey to the next snake.

The previous post didn’t allow me to edit and say “If the royal refuses on Tuesday” because time passed.

Not a big deal. Just figured you were aware this isn’t my first rodeo and you’d have figured out my reasoning.

It seemed an off question for the direction of the conversation.

No harm done. You know how I feed, and I enjoy your posts and beautiful animals.

Early morning today and not feeling the best.

All is well and we will continue to share thoughts and ideas.

To steer things back on to the topic of this thread, Phyllis, here’s how last night went. Let her back out to cruise the apt for another hour and a half while I watched tv because she kept on pushing, and when I put her away she went to sleep all night. This animal seriously appears to need a couple long walks each day like she’s a damn dog. Today is 6 days from the last feeding, I may just let her cruise and wear herself out and see if I can get to day 7 before feeding


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To steer things back on to the topic of this thread, Phyllis, here’s how last night went. Let her back out to cruise the apt for another hour and a half while I watched tv because she kept on pushing, and when I put her away she went to sleep all night. This animal seriously appears to need a couple long walks each day like she’s a damn dog. Today is 6 days from the last feeding, I may just let her cruise and wear herself out and see if I can get to day 7 before feeding


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Awesome!!

Sounds like you have things starting to work in your favor.

Hope it continues 😊👍

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Awesome!!

Sounds like you have things starting to work in your favor.

Hope it continues [emoji4][emoji106]

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Thanks brother! I’m hoping it works too. Such a bummer to see her with a fat lip more often than not, I’d love for that to change.


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Thanks brother! I’m hoping it works too. Such a bummer to see her with a fat lip more often than not, I’d love for that to change.


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And Gerald doesn’t do any of this does he??

I think you have got to be dialed in on your husbandry if your other retic is just fine.

So looks like you wear her out “like a dog” and go from there.

Frustrating I’m sure but I think you are on the right track.

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And Gerald doesn’t do any of this does he??

I think you have got to be dialed in on your husbandry if your other retic is just fine.

So looks like you wear her out “like a dog” and go from there.

Frustrating I’m sure but I think you are on the right track.

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Oh, Gerald pushes like a maniac too lol! He just generally doesn’t end up with a swollen face, though he did have a fairly smashed up face when i got home from traveling a couple weeks ago. It’s looking better and he’s about to start a shed so he’ll probably look fine once he sheds. His face has always looked a little goofy because he has a scar on his bottom lip that’s been there since I got him. His pushing (knock on wood) has never been quite a forceful and determined as Phyllis though.
Gonna keep an eye on Phyllis through the day and if she pushes I’ll just let her roam again. I’d like her to be on at least a 7 day schedule again if at all possible. 10 would be great but let’s not get ahead of ourselves lol


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