My dealings with MKR

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Originally Posted by kavmon

the only reason anyone from mkr is on this forum is to generate sales!


to put a plug on a thread involving another breeders deal is very tasteless and low.


vaughn

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Even if they are here to help their sales... Why not? There are countless other people on this forum who breed them also - it seems like MKR are shammed because they sell for less.


I agree that reverse price-gouging is tough, but why don't
the other breeders lower their prices to compete? Now, I do not know anything when it comes to breeding and the snake trade, but I do understand competitive advantage.. Sometimes it sucks.

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Originally Posted by kavmon

to put a plug on a thread involving another breeders deal is very tasteless and low.


vaughn

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ya but i didn't bite at his offer anyway :D i did bite adam though :wuv:

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Originally Posted by bchapman

He was never trying to steal sales, his words got twisted and manipulated to the point that someone got everyone to believe what he wanted them to believe.

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See you as you see it - The ghost has no FN business in this forum, or any other for that matter to jump into anothers thread for a sales pitch - MKR has no respect for whatsoever - Maybe and hopefully they are feeling the pinch - perhaps not at the moment, but what comes around, goes around - MKR is bad for the general public and general BP keeper as well - My opinions may get me banned from here, but you know what - There is alot of kids here as well as older people like me - I'm not here to mis-inform them and lead them into a mis-guided direction, as some may do - They have their own forums, and have been kicked off many due to their behavior and practices - They don't belong here either IMO :rockon:

bchapman, you see nothing wrong in plugging a sale on a thread about another breeders sale?


i personally don't agree with using false motives to make a sale. i don't agree to taking advantage of a good forum just to make a sale. if you are a regular member and participate in the forums and people come to you, that's different. if you're only here to make a sale and all you do is plug yourself and throw ads, i find that low and not honorable! that's not how i live and not how i treat people.


vaughn

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Originally Posted by bchapman

I agree that reverse price-gouging is tough, but why don't
the other breeders lower their prices to compete? Now, I do not know anything when it comes to breeding and the snake trade, but I do understand competitive advantage.. Sometimes it sucks.

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MKR didn't price gouge, it's called a market dump. The entire purpose of a market dump is to devalue a product to such a degree that it can't recover. Although, it's likely Mojave's will eventually stabalize, they probably won't regain any value.

And contrary to MKR's good ol' boys claims, this wouldn't have happened if MKR hadn't done the market dump in the first place. That isn't good business, because it devalues a product THEY are selling.

Plain and simple, Joe wanted to punish Bob and Mike because they are better businessmen then Joe will ever be. So instead of improving service, he pulled a typical junky car salesman and punished the entire industry.

do you have any pics? ill have to beg but if my husband ever lets me get another bp it would be a pied. i dont really know all that much about mkr but good luck to you.

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

one 100% het pied male and one Pastel male.

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Originally Posted by bpkid

They say we won't allow a touchdown! Damon Huard is doing good for a benchwarmer :D

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Yeah, Huard is doing pretty good. He was Hasslebeck's back up in Seattle who was Favre's backup in Green Bay. Maybe something got passed down. One can only hope he keeps it up.

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Originally Posted by bchapman

He was never trying to steal sales, his words got twisted and manipulated to the point that someone got everyone to believe what he wanted them to believe.

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If that is what you want to believe. Fiction can be fun!

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

as you all know I have very little money to spend. I keep looking to see if I could find something with in my price range but no such luck.

so I desided to write in my blog in myspace just to get it out about the fact that my dream was to some day breed beautiful morphs but that I felt that dream fadeing away.

with as little income as I have (enough to buy food for my snakes and vet bills and any other emergency buys, water bowls, heating pads, extra tubs ect ect) I didnt see my self getting any farther than picking up male normal ball pythons from people.

well my my myspace page has a link to my husbands websites hexibase.com and teamtoxicbass.com and both has his contact info. and i got a call from MKR and Joe wanted to know everything I wanted to do. what my true dream was.

Thanks to him and Wes I can fufill my dream and I couldent be any happier. I actualy started crying. I gave up on ball python breeding all togeather. but now I have that jumpstart I really needed.

Burn me all you want people. I might be mad about it but you know what, I have the start I need to make my dream become reality. and they have been nothing but helpful, kind and very informitive.


I know I will never get as big of a breeder like Markus Jane or Adam but dang it I want to start out right and with this nudge I just got it will happen.

if what I just did caluses you to think twice about buying form me, talking to me, or selling to me then your sad. I'm tired of getting burned, harassed, joked on, pushed around and sent PMs about my dealings with MKR.

I'm very happy and greatful for this and you know what ... if you want something to burn me on or harass me about... do it about this...

BITE ME!
there you go. get on me for being a female dog on a public forum. not about something good that finaly happens to me . nothing good ever happens to me, and when it finaly dose I end up walking on egg shels around you all so I can still be "good little jessie" I want to shout out that something great happened to me and this is what I get? Flame Wars and me being the brunt of todays jokes?

I'm saddened by this, hurt, and most of all I feel let down.

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With everything that the original post started, Jessie...I gotta ask you this: what was your point? To start trouble? What you've done is mark yourself as someone who supports a breeder that doesn't support the industry, and basically black-balled yourself on here. Congratulations. Please don't complain when you are unable to recoup some of your investment because Joe turns around and undercuts you.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

With everything that the original post started, Jessie...I gotta ask you this: what was your point? To start trouble? What you've done is mark yourself as someone who supports a breeder that doesn't support the industry, and basically black-balled yourself on here. Congratulations. Please don't complain when you are unable to recoup some of your investment because Joe turns around and undercuts you.

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While I don't completely agree with the attitude behind Jessie's original post...I do somewhat understand her defensiveness. And she is not "blackballed" around here! I personally don't support the business practices of MKR, but everyone is free to make their own choices. And you, of course, are free to never buy a snake from Jessie, or never even speak to her again here, if you wish. But you can't speak for everyone else by calling her "blackballed."