Big News Coming Tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by Sean : EbN

Your crude and amateur opinion is upsetting! If you think I am commenting because of my financial stance in the Desert project, you are boldly mistaken! Since the news of Desert females being "pet-only quality" I have continued turn my ORIGINAL investment over EVERY YEAR! Yes I'm saying that the amount of money that my company spent on Deserts has been profitable EVERY YEAR including this year when Desert animals were $100-500 each.

You're ignorant for writing what you have since you don't understand the gene or what it looks like. To say that you wish failure so that our "company line" is cut is foolish. You continue to be WRONG :colbert:

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And this pompous attitude affirms my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Jake Milbradt

Sean,

I've re-read this paragraph of yours several times, and I just want to make sure I'm reading it clearly. Are you saying both of these snakes are pastel deserts? Or only the snake in the second picture?

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Jake,

Sorry for confusion... only the snake in the second photo is a Desert. IF the top photo animal actually looks that good and it wasn't a poorly colored/lit photo it is a great looking Citrus Pastel but certainly not Desert.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yep. Look at what Jay M. said. I was on break at work and responding fast so I didn't have time to type out the math. So basically, if that female has desert in her, we can say with confidence there's like a 98.5% chance we'll see at least one desert hatch. That was my point. Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing about it.

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Mike how many animals have bred over the years? Never missed on odds? Ever had a clutch of normal hatching? If you never did, you are either VERY lucky or have not produced enough clutches.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yep. Look at what Jay M. said. I was on break at work and responding fast so I didn't have time to type out the math. So basically, if that female has desert in her, we can say with confidence there's like a 98.5% chance we'll see at least one desert hatch. That was my point. Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing about it.

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Incredible odds really. Having said that I have had several big 10 - 12 egg clutches produce only one morph when my odds were 50% on each egg. Just now I am hatching an 8 egg clutch of pied het albino x albino and I only produced 1 albino. :tears:

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

And this pompous attitude affirms my opinion.

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It affirms nothing since my "pompous attitude" is stating FACT. That FACT is that the animal IS a Pastel Desert. Your opinion doesn't count because your opinion is WRONG. Call me any names you'd like, wish animals dead and breeder's to fail... FACT remains that you're wrong.

I heard from another person who read another forum which then was referred to by his sister in law (forgot the link) that the NSA and the IRS are behind the Great Desert Conspiracy.

I realize that without the link, my word means nothing, but trust me, I know everything there is to know about reptiles because I sit behind my computer all day and read about them from other people who sit behind their computers all day who also read about them. Except for the porn breaks here and there, I absorbed everything there is to know about things I have no experience with.

So without knowing a thing about the gene, without owning one, without ever really breeding a snake and with only a rudimentary understanding of snake reproduction in general, it is an immutable fact that all Desert Females are programmed genetically to die when bred. Anyone who thinks otherwise is perpetrating a scam.

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Originally Posted by skiploder

i heard from another person who read another forum which then was referred to by his sister in law (forgot the link) that the nsa and the irs are behind the great desert conspiracy.

I realize that without the link, my word means nothing, but trust me, i know everything there is to know about reptiles because i sit behind my computer all day and read about them from other people who sit behind their computers all day who also read about them. Except for the porn breaks here and there, i absorbed everything there is to know about things i have no experience with.

So without knowing a thing about the gene, without owning one, without ever really breeding a snake and with only a rudimentary understanding of snake reproduction in general, it is an immutable fact that all desert females are programmed genetically to die when bred. Anyone who thinks otherwise is perpetrating a scam.

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amen!

It is upsetting to see someone with so much "good" rep on this site being so negative. Not believing in something is one thing, which I think we can all respect.

However, hoping something will die is not the way to prove your point. This is, or should be a community based on the respect for life. This is why there is so much "negative" grease on this thread in the first place. Take money out of the picture, these are animals lives that we are talking about. People are going to do what they want, but plain out stating you hope it dies is just cruel.

For the sake of the desert gene, I hope the eggs hatch, and we see very healthy desert babies. I also hope that the OP keeps the girls back, and tries it again.

I also hope, that those with female deserts wait and see what plays out. Also, those with female deserts should understand that they are playing with fire, and should be ready at the drop of the hat with available finances and time to take care of the girl if complications arise.

I restate my original end, Congratulations to the OP, and good luck.

This is pretty cool news! :gj: Good luck OP, I hope that the eggs come to term and that that beautiful gene is given a new life in our hobby :)

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Originally Posted by Sean : EbN

Jake,

Sorry for confusion... only the snake in the second photo is a Desert. IF the top photo animal actually looks that good and it wasn't a poorly colored/lit photo it is a great looking Citrus Pastel but certainly not Desert.

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I'm also confused. Isn't the top picture the OP's girl as a baby? Sorry I don't have time to surf the whole thread again.