for all you spider owners out there...

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Originally Posted by rocky

Yupp, it is...Ill get some better pics of him within the next 2, 3 days....maybe even today....In the mean time...Heres an older pic with somewhat better lighting...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_0533.jpg

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Thats what it was the lighting made it look really gray.. you can really see the difference in the two with your newer pic.

But at a glance your first one look like a real light Mojave.http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/IMG_8825.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/0/mojave.jpg

But thats hot hot hot lesser the are in my top five fav base morphs.

Spiders
Lessers
Mojave
Pied
Pinstrips

excuse my ignorance, but what IS a lesser?

beautiful :)

As for spiders after reading this I will avoid them. They really are pretty but the neurological component seems to me like something that should not be propagated. If the snakes could talk and tell me that they really don't mind the effect I would feel better. Until then I'll stick to other morphs :)

Too bad we don't have the tech yet to fix the genes. That would be sweeeeet.

On a related note some of my feelings have been influenced by my friend's daughter. She was born with genetic defects. She LOOKS AMAZING! Her hair is all different colors and her eyes are big and blue, her skin is milky white. Gorgeous. But unfortunately she has neurological problems that are also related to the chromosomal abnormality :( When I saw the discussion about spider genes it reminded me of her situation.

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Originally Posted by fishmommy

excuse my ignorance, but what IS a lesser?

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lesser platinum is the full name for them a co/dom trait that the super form is the black eye lucy.

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beautiful :)

As for spiders after reading this I will avoid them. They really are pretty but the neurological component seems to me like something that should not be propagated. If the snakes could talk and tell me that they really don't mind the effect I would feel better. Until then I'll stick to other morphs :)

Too bad we don't have the tech yet to fix the genes. That would be sweeeeet.

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Please don't be put off by our spinning deal. Spiders are a great morph that'll find its way into many collections this year with prices getting more in the pet range. If you by from a good breeder you shouldn't worry. Yes all spiders do have little quirks but a good breeder will not sale you one that is a train wreck. :D :D :D . Just think of the little quirks as personality traits associated with spiders. :D :D :D

I plan on having 955 million of them they are one of my top five favs.

naw...not for me.


I have been accused of being overly-empathetic (I cry if someone punches a stuffed animal even!)
but I would always worry that the poor snake was feeling dizzy. Sure they cope with it and such, but I guess I assume the worst - vertigo is very unpleasant :(
I am assuming I know....but there's no way to prove or disprove what their experience is.
I will have to wait for the *talking* spider morph to come along and set my mind at ease before I will support the morph with my spending power :lol:

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Originally Posted by fishmommy

naw...not for me.


I will have to wait for the *talking* spider morph to come along and set my mind at ease before I will support the morph with my spending power :lol:

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Thats the great thing with balls there is so much out there to chose from. Its hard to not find two or twelve morphs you like..So if for whatever reason spiders aren't for you... cool... there 100's of morphs out there your sure to fall in love with three or four.

As for the talking spider morph me and Cue have an under the table thing going thats looking promising for that... :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :D :D :D

:)

yeah, 5 years from now there will be threads like: "Are Het Albinos more prone to foul language?" and "Spiders are just sarcastic...that's how they are"
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Originally Posted by fishmommy

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yeah, 5 years from now there will be threads like: "Are Het Albinos more prone to foul language?" and "Spiders are just sarcastic...that's how they are"
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LOL only if me and Cue produce them... LOL :D

This is definitely one of the most informative threads ever..

But excuse me if I missed but I don`t think this was mentioned,
would the genetic defect ie.spinning/wobbling be passed down the spider line, do bumblebees exhibit the same characteristics?

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Originally Posted by TheDoctor

This is definitely one of the most informative threads ever..

But excuse me if I missed but I don`t think this was mentioned,
would the genetic defect ie.spinning/wobbling be passed down the spider line, do bumblebees exhibit the same characteristics?

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Yes. And even to normal sibs of spider to normal breedings.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

lesser platinum is the full name for them a co/dom trait that the super form is the black eye lucy.

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Actualy the super form is the Blue eyed lucy.