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Originally Posted by TraconSnake

I think focusing on trying to keep the prices as high as possible for as long as possible isn't the right focus.

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Originally Posted by TraconSnake

So, wile it's important to sell your product at the highest price you can, the focus is to make money in the future.

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I really think you're missing my point.

I'm not advocating keeping prices as high as possible for as long as possible.

I'm advocating not dropping prices until all of the buyers at a given price point have been exhausted. If there are people out there willing to pay $1,500 for an animal, why would anyone want to sell to them for $1,000?? If you don’t need the money, wholesale the animals out … if you like money … what the heck are you thinking? Is $500 not enough?

Of course supply is going to dictate prices, but when new breeders sell their animals at lower prices in order to compete instead of putting in the work to market themselves and get full dollar for their product, they artificially quicken that natural pace of the drop.

That isn't good for anyone.

TV and car analogies are great, but TV's aren't being sold to people that are looking to make money … ball pythons are.

Maybe I'm just weird, but every time I sell a ball python to someone that plans on breeding it in order to make money, I feel a personal responsibility to make sure they get the maximum return on their investment. Since I can't go to all of their homes and breed the animals for them, I advocate extending the life time of the market for as long as possible. This lets them raise their animals, breed them, and sell at a price that is of course lower than what they paid, but hopefully not pushed down to far by anything beyond just supply and demand (like unnatural downward price pressure from inexperienced sellers). I want my customers to make as much money as possible.

For me, I'm all set ... I'm not even going to produce pastels next year for the sake of making pastels, in another year or two I'll be done with straight homozygous albinos, after that I'll move on from spiders and cinnamons ... for two reasons ... to make room for my customers to market and sell their products without competing against them ... and to focus on higher end sales of combinations and rarer animals like you suggested.

When I make my case for supporting prices and extending the life of the market, please understand that it's for my customers sake. I would think that any breeder with customers and a conscious would make the same argument.

It’s the little guy that makes the big breeders what they are. If you support the little guys ability to make money, they do well and you do too!

-adam

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

Petco lists $8 male imported CH for $80, for them to be selling albinos for $100 it would mean that they were getting them for $20 or under.


What kind of time frame were you thinking of?

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I don't ever see that happening. Balls cost too much to raise and lay too few eggs for anyone in the U.S. to make a profit with those numbers. I am curious as to what the cheapest a CB Ball could be sold for and still remain profitable. Anyone? :confused:

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

Even if that cost doubled, he would only have to raise the cost to $1200 per baby to be making the same amount.

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Where are your taxes and insurance?

That $1000 isn't $1000 after the IRS gets their piece.

Not to mention a TON of other things that you're missing.

It all looks cheap when you play games on paper, but when you roll up your sleeves and get to work it takes money to make money.

-adam

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I don't ever see that happening. Balls cost too much to raise and lay too few eggs for anyone in the U.S. to make a profit with those numbers. I am curious as to what the cheapest a CB Ball could be sold for and still remain profitable. Anyone? :confused:

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My target is $400. After that my margins are too low for me to bother. There are easier ways to make money. ;)

-adam

my target is around 1k! lol rack space real estate is steep in a 10x10 room! that reminds me, i'm going to need more morphs. can you recommend a good breeder? lol

couldn't resist that one.



vaughn

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Originally Posted by kavmon

can you recommend a good breeder?

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I heard of this Jimmy guy that will hook ya. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Where are your taxes and insurance?

That $1000 isn't $1000 after the IRS gets their piece.

Not to mention a TON of other things that you're missing.

It all looks cheap when you play games on paper, but when you roll up your sleeves and get to work it takes money to make money.

-adam

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Feel free to list what I am missing, I am the first one to admit that I am missing a LOT! (Btw, I added 4000 randomly, to cover what I didnt know :) because im sure there is a lot)

I couldn't even begin to guess what taxes are taken out on a $1000 snake sale.

i might have heard of him "Jimmy Snake Revolutions" he does good deals on breeding loans too:bolt: :partyon: :whisper: :rofl:


vaughn

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

My target is $400. After that my margins are too low for me to bother. There are easier ways to make money. ;)

-adam

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*furiously scribbles notes*

That easier way of making money woudln't happen to involve a ski mask and a fast car?

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

I couldn't even begin to guess what taxes are taken out on a $1000 snake sale.

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-adam