odd spider

I acutally learned about this thread the other day from Interloc as he expressed his confusion about how anyone could think that snake had any spider in it. After looking at the photos he shared with me on facebook from this thread, my response to him was that I thought it very well could be the ugliest/most interesting spider I have ever seen.

I do think it is possible that it carries the spider gene. It could be really low expression, a paradox as mentioned by another member, or maybe the normal female actually did carry some sort of gene that messed up the spider expression. Who knows? I sure don't. Not unless I work with the snake in question or prove it out.

My first reaction: Very odd looking spider
My belief: Likely a spider
Am I 100% that it is a spider: Nope

Until we come up with a method for testing a snake's genetic makeup using DNA, we can't know what mutations are un a snake unless we breed them out. So to say that one person or another is 100% sure what genes an animal has based only on a picture isn't wise, in my humble opinion.

im going to add this, I know the breeder personally and know that snake breeding is his life and he would never sell a normal as a morph...he is very well known in florida and also works closely with Michael cole and greg graziani..that being said if he told me it was a spider I would bet all my snakes it has spider in it and it will produce spiders...not saying its a double morph or it will produce good quality spiders but it will produce spiders...if it turns out to produce crappy spiders I will not breed him again...but I guess we will know in a year even though he isn't my priority to breed next season...me making cinny pinstripe albinos are my main goal next season...so I will prob breed him to a normal just to be safe and not waste a female morph on him..

Look, it's a spider!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/SM4kdgA.jpg

lol



Nah, for real, if you want to breed spiders, at least get one that looks like this boy!!!

http://i.imgur.com/jVRTXFb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/E8rBTmx.jpg

Now you guys have hit on something. I thought as soon as I saw it, spider or normal, it would be cool to breed to an enchi. So, what if it already IS an enchi? Or a woma? I really think you guys are on to something there. I've seen some normal looking enchi's, in fact they aren't hard to find. And womas? You don't see them often, but it would be easy to mistake one for a normal if you didn't know what you were looking for. I had a low expression woma for a while in fact, and the reason I never bred him is because he was so much like a normal.

The more I think about, the more inclined I am to think it's right. I think it is indeed possible this could be a spider woma. The similarities are sure there. Now I really want the OP to breed it, because I'm dying to see what it produces! Is it a boy? If so he's close to breeding size already. If it's a female this is gonna be a long wait, but I think I'm going to subscribe to this thread anyway. In hopes I'll get to see the end of the mystery.

Gale

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Originally Posted by Mrhappytreats4u

im going to add this, I know the breeder personally and know that snake breeding is his life and he would never sell a normal as a morph...he is very well known in florida and also works closely with Michael cole and greg graziani..that being said if he told me it was a spider I would bet all my snakes it has spider in it and it will produce spiders...not saying its a double morph or it will produce good quality spiders but it will produce spiders...if it turns out to produce crappy spiders I will not breed him again...but I guess we will know in a year even though he isn't my priority to breed next season...me making cinny pinstripe albinos are my main goal next season...so I will prob breed him to a normal just to be safe and not waste a female morph on him..

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Dude you're killin' us here! If you know the breeder personally, get us some pics of the Momma snake! Please oh please :)

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Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents

Dude you're killin' us here! If you know the breeder personally, get us some pics of the Momma snake! Please oh please :)

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He noted earlier that momma was sold, and the breeder didn't have any pics of her :( :(

yes its a boy...and I already mentioned a couple times the female was sold before I seen her..the breeder didn't take pics of her because she was just a normal reduced to him and it was just a basic spider x normal breeding...like I said he sold her even before the eggs hatched..

Oh darn it!!! How did I miss that?

Would it be impossible for the breeder to contact the person he sold it too and request pictures?

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believe me I tried to see her the day I got him...I wanted to see the parents myself to see how this snake came out like it did...I tell you what he weighs 400 grams and I have a normal female that I have been pairing with my het red before I got rid of him due to I decided to go a different path and I never seen them lock so I will thr4ow my spider in there to see what he does...I will keep yall informed of any locks with pics and see how it goes...