adopted a ball python new here a bit scared

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Originally Posted by wispurs

Ok 1, i was writing mine when you posted about the co2 and

" some have their necks broken.. Especially the ones you get from Petco/Petsmart. Just keep that in mind."

WTF is wrong with you, why would you even tell me that? You just want to put a sick image of some guy going around to little baby mice and picking them up one by one snapping their little necks like dandelions while the rest just wait for their turn.
you want to upset me because i think its cruel to feed a living animal to a snake in a cage where it has no chance.

You are a mean spirited sick person and i hope your karma meets you very soon!

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Oh, why, thank you for the personal attacks! They're very sweet. :rolleyes:

Would you rather me not tell you and lie and say, oh you're right, you're right about everything? Is that what you want?

Alright, I'll lie to you.
In the happiness of a rat breeding facility, all the rats go peacefully and painlessly with no understanding what is happening to them.

Also, I rarely see any rats "thrash" when they are constricted. Usually I see a twitch and kick at the most.
But please, I'm not going to let some of my snakes die who refuse f/t just because you think it's cruel to feed that to them. Sorry! My snake gets top priority!

And hey, just for your information, I have 22 snakes, and feed TWO of them live.
Just out of convenience.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

Oh, why, thank you for the personal attacks! They're very sweet. :rolleyes:

Would you rather me not tell you and lie and say, oh you're right, you're right about everything? Is that what you want?

Alright, I'll lie to you.
In the happiness of a rat breeding facility, all the rats go peacefully and painlessly with no understanding what is happening to them.

Also, I rarely see any rats "thrash" when they are constricted. Usually I see a twitch and kick at the most.
But please, I'm not going to let some of my snakes die who refuse f/t just because you think it's cruel to feed that to them. Sorry! My snake gets top priority!

And hey, just for your information, I have 22 snakes, and feed TWO of them live.
Just out of convenience.

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why do you want to fight with me? everyone here has been attacking me and trying to make it seem like im a bad person because i have my own way of dealing with my snake, he does seem to like the way i deal with him, so whats the problem?

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Originally Posted by wispurs

why do you want to fight with me?

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You attacked me. So I have no intention of fighting you. You made the first strike.

I'm telling you the way things are, and if you don't like it, I don't know what to tell you.

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Originally Posted by wispurs

why do you want to fight with me? everyone here has been attacking me and trying to make it seem like im a bad person because i have my own way of dealing with my snake, he does seem to like the way i deal with him, so whats the problem?

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We're not trying to attack you. We are trying to give you information based on knowledge and fact and you precede to shove it in our faces and deny it.

Go ask a herpetologist if snakes feel "love". They've been learning about reptiles for decades, and they'll probably laugh at you. Because there is substantial evidence that shows their range of available "feelings".

There's nothing wrong with your current set-up, besides the sleeping thing, which is just outright dangerous. It's your mindset and accusations against people who feed live that upsets us.

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Originally Posted by wispurs

you want to upset me because i think its cruel to feed a living animal to a snake in a cage where it has no chance.

You are a mean spirited sick person and i hope your karma meets you very soon!

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im sorry to bring this pic back up but this poor snake had to be put to sleep by a member on here because some numpty left a poor inoccent mouse that would have no chance in its tank unsupervised
anyone that live feeds properly makes sure its as humane as possable for both snake and rodent
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/100_4400.jpg

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Originally Posted by punkoldschool

im sorry to bring this pic back up but this poor snake had to be put to sleep by a member on here because some numpty left a poor inoccent mouse that would have no chance in its tank unsupervised
anyone that live feeds properly makes sure its as humane as possable for both snake and rodent

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There is a difference between feeding live responsibly and feeding live like an irresponsible owner.
Leaving a live rodent in a cage with a snake for any period of unsupervised time is dangerous. Whoever did that did not know what they were doing.

None of us feed irresponsibly like that.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

We're not trying to attack you. We are trying to give you information based on knowledge and fact and you precede to shove it in our faces and deny it.

Go ask a herpetologist if snakes feel "love". They've been learning about reptiles for decades, and they'll probably laugh at you. Because there is substantial evidence that shows their range of available "feelings".

There's nothing, wrong with your current set-up, besides the sleeping thing, which is just outright dangerous. It's your mindset and accusations against people who feed live that upsets us.

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I dont care what any herpetologist says. I dont care what anyone says, im going by how MY snake acts. not by how some snake kept by someone else with a narrow minded view of how snakes do or dont feel, thinks. you are NOT a snake and probably just havnt had an affectionate snake who CHOOSES to sit with you and show an interest in being held.

Sorry if you cant comprehend that my snake seems to like these things. its not my fault that he WANTS to be held and you cant understand nor explain it.

Why does everyone think CO2 is so harmless? Have you ever been deprived of oxygen long enough to "fall asleep?" It's kinda horrible.

i said responsably didnt i? im just trying to let this girl know that its not something to be taken lightly and responsable owners make it humane for the snake and the rat because it is dangerous and harms the snake if done wrong

lol punkolschool niether of us are feeding live animals i think ur confused