Childrens python fan club/pic post

I'm getting my first snake in September. After loads of research on different snake, I've decided a male ball python is perfect for me - 3 - 4 feet, girthy, slow-moving, long lifespan, not as bitey as childrens apparently are :P,and absolutely adorable (which all snakes fit into). So, I kindly ask you all to STOP PLAYING YOUR MINDGAMES TO DRAW ME IN TO YOUR CHILDRENS PYTHON CULT. I SEE, YOU TAKE ADORABLE PICTURES AND ADD INSANE AMOUNTS OF ADORABLE. ALL IN THE HOPES OF RECRUITING CULTMEMBERS. Ah, seriously though, they're beautiful. I hope to get one one day, but I really for now prefer something biggish (not retic, burm, or even red tail big) and lots of girth, which ruled out corns. I love them all, aha. The only reptile keepers I can't STAND are the ones who put down OTHER more popular snakes cough cough many burm and retic owners bashing ball pythons cough cough because, right now, it's crucial that we try and stop the ignorance around snakes, not turn on each OTHER. Just because ball pythons took the snake market by storm doesn't make them stupid pet rocks, useless, girls snakes, or not a snake, because 'you haven't owned a snake till you've had a <insert big snake species here.> Just like RETICS AND BURMS BEING BIG DOESN'T MAKE THEM DANGEROUS, IRRITABLE, OR HARMFUL AND NEEDED TO BE BANNED. Sound familiar, large python owners? You are (quite reasonably) upset about the Lacey Act. However, some of you do the exact same thing to ball pythons. Keep this is mind, please. Sorry for spamming the Children's Python post! That was NOT where this was going when I started typing. Adorable, every one of your snakes! I'd be afraid to hurt such noodles! Cheers! Keep up the good work!

I will take pics of my guys tomorrow morning (1.3 childreni, 1.1 cape york maculosa)

I have 1.1 unrelated perthensis (Anthills) coming on Wednesday morning, too :)

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Originally Posted by Marissa@MKmorphs

I will take pics of my guys tomorrow morning (1.3 childreni, 1.1 cape york maculosa)

I have 1.1 unrelated perthensis (Anthills) coming on Wednesday morning, too :)

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Can't wait to see em. I am keeping my eyes open for AAR's clutches to hatch. I really want to get my hands on one of Justin's high red female childreni so I can bring her up as a mate for my male. I am hoping since he has held his spots pretty well and has some light and dark coloring that throwing a red in there will produce some cool babies!

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Originally Posted by jclaiborne

Can't wait to see em. I am keeping my eyes open for AAR's clutches to hatch. I really want to get my hands on one of Justin's high red female childreni so I can bring her up as a mate for my male. I am hoping since he has held his spots pretty well and has some light and dark coloring that throwing a red in there will produce some cool babies!

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Yes! My anthills won't be here until Thursday now :/ I need to add some granite macs and stimmies to my antaresia collection. :)

Hey guys I need some help from experienced owners.

I've having trouble deciding on a snake for my empty 24x24x12 pvc cage that's sitting empty. Has a UTH and pro products RHP both independently controlled on Ranco stats and thermometer/hygrometer. I've changed thoughts on which snake many times partly caused by little options in my country and area. So my questions are

1. How active are they during the day/late afternoon. I do mean active in comparison to a ball python. I don't expect them to be on the go 24/7 but would like a snake that can be seen exploring on a regular basis.

2. Would my cage be big enough for an adult? I'm not in a position to buy a new setup for awhile (just bought a house). I already have all the equipment needed minus decor after moving my BP to a 48x24x16 pvc. Leaving his old cage empty plus I order an RHP for it when I ordered one for his new cage. I'd be at a loss selling it so I'd rather find a second snake that could live it's life in it and enjoy it.

I'm interested in a childrens python, I held a baby more than once my local reptile store he was very calm and just explored the limits of my hands. I was scared of hurting him he was so small, I was worried I'd crush him accidentally. I held a baby spotted, he was more aggressive the little jerk bit my thumb. It was funny he looked at my thumb of that hand holding him, eyed it for a few seconds then turned his head on an angle then bam. It didn't even break the skin and I'm used to cutting my hands at work.

Seeing as I can't edit my above post I just want to say I've kept fish for over a decade and I know there is a big difference between what should be done and what people do. I prefer to give more room then my pets need that's for both fish and reptiles. Often with both they are kept in smaller, while some may live long lives for the type doesn't mean it's right. Others die young under the "they only grow to the size of their environment" BS lie of a line that couldn't be more wrong. Would a human stop growing if you put them in a box, no you grow as genetics and nutrition dictates. I've read countless times how goldfish die so fast when in reality they can live 25+yrs and a common goldfish will grow around the 12" mark and even fancy goldfish hit around 8-9", they died because you're housing them wrong not the fish. Sorry for the mini rant, It's an annoyance of mine as I'm sure experienced reptile keepers have of other reptiles but because I'm a complete newb in this world I haven't developed that yet. I'm of the mind you should house an animal properly or don't have it at all.

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Originally Posted by trailblazer295

Hey guys I need some help from experienced owners.

I've having trouble deciding on a snake for my empty 24x24x12 pvc cage that's sitting empty. Has a UTH and pro products RHP both independently controlled on Ranco stats and thermometer/hygrometer. I've changed thoughts on which snake many times partly caused by little options in my country and area. So my questions are

1. How active are they during the day/late afternoon. I do mean active in comparison to a ball python. I don't expect them to be on the go 24/7 but would like a snake that can be seen exploring on a regular basis.

2. Would my cage be big enough for an adult? I'm not in a position to buy a new setup for awhile (just bought a house). I already have all the equipment needed minus decor after moving my BP to a 48x24x16 pvc. Leaving his old cage empty plus I order an RHP for it when I ordered one for his new cage. I'd be at a loss selling it so I'd rather find a second snake that could live it's life in it and enjoy it.

I'm interested in a childrens python, I held a baby more than once my local reptile store he was very calm and just explored the limits of my hands. I was scared of hurting him he was so small, I was worried I'd crush him accidentally. I held a baby spotted, he was more aggressive the little jerk bit my thumb. It was funny he looked at my thumb of that hand holding him, eyed it for a few seconds then turned his head on an angle then bam. It didn't even break the skin and I'm used to cutting my hands at work.

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That size cage would fit a male for quite a long time as they grow relatively slow. However I personally believe that they should be in a little bigger cage as adults because they will use every inch of it. Mine climbs as well so they will use vertical space too. They hide quite a bit when they are young, but now mine spends all his time exploring, roaming, when I put fresh water in the cage he goes straight for it. They can be snappy at times but like you said it doesn't hurt and I think their bigger than life attitudes is what makes them fun. You could look at pygmy pythons (sometimes called anthill) they are part of the antaresia genus, but are the smallest of the pythons and would probably do great in that size cage.

Anthills might be a good option, they are just much harder to find and much more expensive than children's (which are the second smallest species of python on the planet).

Here is a photo that was posted in an Antaresia group on facebook of a female anthill on a clutch of eggs. Photo does not belong to me.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04...d6632f494e.jpg

Sadly my local selection is rather poor, it seems Canada doesn't get all the cool interesting species. Out of half a dozen or more small king snakes I found that would fit in that cage none are found locally.

Ok, I just realized I'm Canadian and I talk more British than anything (although 'eh' is an important part of vocabulary.) People always ask, "Are you british?" "Never been in my life." "You have a british accent." "Do i?" "You're british." "Not at all." "Liar!" Anyways, I never feel satisfied without saying 'cheers' when I end a textpost. I'm sorry, I just derailed part of this thread. Don't hate me.