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Originally Posted by Sean : EbN

I'm not trying to be offensive but I would like to say that I think you are wrong based not only on Amir and Brant but also my own professional opinion. A $50 donation to BP.net is a nice gift so I'm sure that the admins will be happy for your generosity but the ONLY way you'll be saving your cash is if the OP misses the 50% odds of Deserts (which is possible regardless of the number of eggs produced) :)

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There's like a 1% chance of that happening if she does carry the desert gene. So if she's a desert like you say she is, we more than likely (99%ish chance) will see at least one snake hatch with the desert gene in it.

I'm not trying to come off as cocky. If i'm proven wrong i'll have no problem donating the money (that gets me like a silver membership, right...?) and i'll come here and admit I was wrong.

I can't wait until september. ;)

The idea that we have got all of the in's and outs of reptile genetics figured out is both arrogant and dumb. The idea that there is a female Desert out there that has laid viable eggs really isn't all that hard to believe. I don't know if this is the start of something wonderful for the morph or just a strike of lightening. But even in other animals we see the impossible happen from time to time like female mules giving birth and even hybrids. It'll will be interesting to see if this is a onetime deal with this female or if she'll have problems later.. Either way till we know for sure there is no reason to jump to any conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

The idea that we have got all of the in's and outs of reptile genetics figured out is both arrogant and dumb. The idea that there is a female Desert out there that has laid viable eggs really isn't all that hard to believe. I don't know if this is the start of something wonderful for the morph or just a strike of lightening. But even in other animals we see the impossible happen from time to time like female mules giving birth and even hybrids. It'll will be interesting to see if this is a onetime deal with this female or if she'll have problems later.. Either way till we know for sure there is no reason to jump to any conclusions.

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I fully agree with this.

I think the only real issue I have here is that, if I were the OP, I would have waited until I had viable hatchlings to make an announcement. Less chance of this turning into a Al Capone's Vault kinda thing.

Also, the super hyped, wait till tomorrow, start to the thread was a bit much... but hey to each his own on that one.

First off- congrats on the clutch! I really hope that she is in fact a Desert. This may seem off the wall but when I saw the pic of your female(on FB from a Reptile Report post), my first thought was Pastel Enchi. Not saying that it is, but just wanted to mention what I think is a possibility worth considering. Is it possible that the father of your girl was a low expression Tiger? There were a lot of those things early on, and it seemed like sometimes people had trouble telling certain Tigers and Deserts apart. Might sound crazy but it would definitely explain the 6 perfect eggs:weirdface

Again, I hope I'm wrong. I have never had a Desert and haven't even seen a Pastel Desert in person. The next 60 days will feel like forever, I can promise you that!

I like to keep a very realistic stance on nearly everything I see or read or hear but as I read through this thread I cant help but be hopeful for this to work out yet there is still so much to be done from here. Those eggs must first make it full term. Fingers crossed for the OP and the future of this project.

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Originally Posted by bxjoon

So now we have 3 of the best in the game pretty much confirming the genes of this animal which includes the breeder himself. So as far as the genetics of this snake goes, I am convinced that it has desert in it. Now we wait...

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This is why i hope either the snake dies to prove a point or its not desert. Taking people's opinion. Cause they have a lot of money invested irritates the absolute crap out of me.

Call me a bad person, lol. I just don't think it's a desert. And if it happens to be, that's gotta be one of the worst looking pastels.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

If i'm proven wrong i'll have no problem donating the money (that gets me like a silver membership, right...?)

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Didn't know "donation" and "paid membership" were one and the same! Why don't you do both?:headbang:

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

There's like a 1% chance of that happening if she does carry the desert gene. So if she's a desert like you say she is, we more than likely (99%ish chance) will see at least one snake hatch with the desert gene in it.

I'm not trying to come off as cocky. If i'm proven wrong i'll have no problem donating the money (that gets me like a silver membership, right...?) and i'll come here and admit I was wrong.

I can't wait until september. ;)

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A 1% chance? Really??? :confusd:

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Originally Posted by Kodieh

This is why i hope either the snake dies to prove a point or its not desert. Taking people's opinion. Cause they have a lot of money invested irritates the absolute crap out of me.

Call me a bad person, lol. I just don't think it's a desert. And if it happens to be, that's gotta be one of the worst looking pastels.

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Wow! Harsh. You "HOPE" the animals dies so you can prove a point?! Even if the pairing didn't prove out why would you hope that an animal perishes to prove your point?! And then that pessimistic statement that the snake is one of the worst pastels you have ever seen?!.... Hmmmm... Better idea!!!! Snag some popcorn sit back and wait for the outcome to either talk crap or hold your tongue. Bashing the OP in what seems like an interesting thread makes for a bad read. :/

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Originally Posted by Markus Jayne

A 1% chance? Really??? :confusd:

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Technically it's a 1.56% chance.

With 6 eggs that have one parent that has the desert gene. Each egg has a 50% chance of having the desert gene.

If they all hatch the odds for the clutch are this:

1.56% chance of zero desert babies.
9.38% chance of one desert baby.
23.44% chance of two desert babies.
31.25% chance of three desert babies.
23.44% chance of four desert babies.
9.38% chance of five desert babies.
1.56% chance of six desert babies.