Has desert female breeding got anywhere?

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Originally Posted by alittleFREE

They have no other health problems aside from the breeding issues, though, correct? There wouldn't be a reason not to buy a desert (or desert combo) female if you maybe just liked the look and planned on having it simply as a pet?

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As long as you're familiar with the issues surrounding Desert females and their complications with breeding, I see no reason why they wouldn't make fine and beautiful pets.

This might be a stupi question but what about the dessert female combos, are they useless ?

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

This might be a stupi question but what about the dessert female combos, are they useless ?

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I believe this problem affects any female with the Desert gene, combo or not. And it's "Desert"..."dessert" is a tasty treat...

T9 sucks but you get my drift spelling B champ lol

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Originally Posted by KingPythons

T9 sucks but you get my drift spelling B champ lol

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haha...I was usually out in the 2nd or 3rd round...I'm not a grate speller...;)

Are there any other morphs of ball pythons where females don't lay viable eggs?

That question right there had me thinking, What if a Desert isn't what we think it is.
I know its a long shot but what if its a hybrid.
Lets say a Jag carpet x Ball and after a few gens of breeding male carpalls back to female Ball pythons you get a snake that looks like this but has a lethal gene when you finally use a female showing the mutation.
The desert is almost what I would picture a jag x ball mix a few generations down the line bred just to ball python females.

Was just something I have been thinking about.
Any thoughts on it?

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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

Any thoughts on it?

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Interesting hypothesis. A DNA test would show the presence of other genetic material, right?

Hi,

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Originally Posted by Crazygecko

Are there any other morphs of ball pythons where females don't lay viable eggs?

That question right there had me thinking, What if a Desert isn't what we think it is.
I know its a long shot but what if its a hybrid.
Lets say a Jag carpet x Ball and after a few gens of breeding male carpalls back to female Ball pythons you get a snake that looks like this but has a lethal gene when you finally use a female showing the mutation.
The desert is almost what I would picture a jag x ball mix a few generations down the line bred just to ball python females.

Was just something I have been thinking about.
Any thoughts on it?

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You do realise that's the thing that scares people the most about the hybrids?

That 5 generations later you discover you had a hybrid in the original group and that all your hard work has resulted in nothing but a collection of mutts.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

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You do realise that's the thing that scares people the most about the hybrids?

That 5 generations later you discover you had a hybrid in the original group and that all your hard work has resulted in nothing but a collection of mutts.


dr del

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That's exactly what I was sort of hinting at.
The Desert pattern to me is what I would imagine a Jag carpall would look like a few gens down the line. And with the Jag being a somewhat lethal gene I wonder if it could be causing this. That is only if the slim chance these are actually a hybrid.
I have just never heard of any other morph of ball python where females just don't lay viable eggs.
But who knows what is actually going on here, it would be almost impossible to prove.

Well, I started to type that I think that when hybrids are sterile due to mismatched chromosome counts, it's usually both sexes. However, good ol' Wikipedia refutes me by saying that, in fact, of the scattered accounts of mules producing young, all have been female. So, maybe ...

However, if this were more of a "mystery morph," I'd be a bit more inclined towards that hypothesis -- but don't we have pretty good "origin stories" on two separate lines of Desert that are both female-sterile? :confused: