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Trying at BloodBalls..

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  • 12-12-2011, 03:15 AM
    heathers*bps
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bwt501 View Post
    exactly my point about responsible breeding and selfish shortsightedness in the name of morbid curiosity. Was the new owner made aware that this blood was being bred to a ball and may very well be gravid with frankensnakes? Bloods have amazing sperm retention abilities (years) and this animal may very well be tainted for future breedings. :confused:

    I have found all your posts to this thread distasteful, arrogant and rude. What does it matter to YOU what Tiffany decides to do with her snakes? While your opinion is just that, and one you've expressed more than enough on this thread, I believe you have crossed the line from sharing your opinion to a bit jerk-ish.

    Tiffany, I'm sorry you have to downsize. I know how hard it can be on having X amount of snakes and making the decision that there are a few too many for you, then having to decide which would be the best to find new homes for. I hope you the best of luck in whatever you decide with your snakes. And don't let trolls bring ya down kid :)

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  • 12-12-2011, 04:44 AM
    Missy King
    btw501 is such a troll. only 24 posts? i didn't even bother to click on the name to see what posts. it's clearly someone's extra handle, who has either started things too often already, or is afraid to go under their real handle. Trollllll!
  • 12-12-2011, 11:33 AM
    Tim Mead
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    If you were to read and understand what my buddy, btw501 wrote you might come to the conclusion that ( like myself) he is a passionate keeper who wishes to see the best for herptoculture..His, mine and others opinion against such is nothing more than intelligent integrity speaking..All the talk of creating these hybrids or mutts as us anal ones prefer is nothing more than a passing curiousity from mostly beginners..Age,intelligence and experience teaches one to look at the BIG picture or outcome before proceeding with an endeavor.Pit bull type breeders give no thought to the big picture and each and everyday there is dogs put down due to the lack of THOUGHT..:O..IF one knew before hand that they could place these hybrids where there would be NO possibility of future pollution that would be one thing.. BUT since these animals live for SOOOOO long chances are the people won't even be in herptoculture 10 years from now..PLEASE, YES, PLEASE give very careful thought to your endeavors..IF IF IF, after careful THOUGHT you still want to make hybrids PLEASE go buy a horse and a donkey and make floppy earred mules or go to college and cross a peach and jalapeno for something hot and fuzzy..SATISFACTION AND SELF WORTH comes from RIGHTOUS DOINGS...:D
    God Bless and Merry Christ mas to all who follow..:salute:
  • 12-12-2011, 12:14 PM
    kevinb
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim Mead View Post
    If you were to read and understand what my buddy, btw501 wrote you might come to the conclusion that ( like myself) he is a passionate keeper who wishes to see the best for herptoculture..His, mine and others opinion against such is nothing more than intelligent integrity speaking..All the talk of creating these hybrids or mutts as us anal ones prefer is nothing more than a passing curiousity from mostly beginners..Age,intelligence and experience teaches one to look at the BIG picture or outcome before proceeding with an endeavor.Pit bull type breeders give no thought to the big picture and each and everyday there is dogs put down due to the lack of THOUGHT..:O..IF one knew before hand that they could place these hybrids where there would be NO possibility of future pollution that would be one thing.. BUT since these animals live for SOOOOO long chances are the people won't even be in herptoculture 10 years from now..PLEASE, YES, PLEASE give very careful thought to your endeavors..IF IF IF, after careful THOUGHT you still want to make hybrids PLEASE go buy a horse and a donkey and make floppy earred mules or go to college and cross a peach and jalapeno for something hot and fuzzy..SATISFACTION AND SELF WORTH comes from RIGHTOUS DOINGS...:D
    God Bless and Merry Christ mas to all who follow..:salute:

    I'm not quite sure how you get off saying that only beginners breed hybrids.....actually to be honest I don't know ANY beginners who have tried such a thing. All the hybrids I have ever know of came straight from the hands of a well know breeder (N.E.R.D, Ben Siegel, Steve Roussis, and so on). I also find it pretty offensive to call my friend Tiffany a beginner and assume she has no knowledge what so ever. She has been keeping snakes for over 6 years...in my book thats not a beginner, especially when she has hatched out clutches before and can handle a 7'+ Dumerils boa by her lonesome......your post just makes no sense. :gj:
  • 12-12-2011, 12:25 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim Mead View Post
    If Pit bull type breeders give no thought to the big picture and each and everyday there is dogs put down due to the lack of THOUGHT.

    :confused::confused:
    True breeders do put time and thought into their dogs, so make real sure you know where you are stepping here. IDIOTS needing the "extension" just throw a good looking stud with a good looking dam to make a quick buck. That is not as easy in the reptile world, it takes more time and planning. So IF that is the case, What about all the people that just keep having kids and dont know how to stop at one or two? Same comparison you brought to the table.;)

    The big difference is the human race is a cancer on this planet and btw501 is a troll so they are one in the same.:gj:
  • 12-12-2011, 12:28 PM
    kevinb
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    the human race is a cancer on this planet

    Too right...:gj:
  • 12-12-2011, 02:02 PM
    mr.spooky
    TIM, im none of what you have described, and i am starting my hybrid project.. ill be looking forward to hearing your face leak crap in the future.
    spooky
  • 12-12-2011, 02:34 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany View Post
    The male never locked with the female. I watched them a lot of the time and he wasn't interested in her in the slightest bit. These are two completely different species so it would have to had taken some time on their behalf to breed. Even if the female was interested, that doesn't mean the male was too. I only paired them 3 different times as well.

    I respect your concern but calling me selfish isn't necessary. This was my choice to sell her and not yours.

    I am not defending what the other poster is posting. I honestly have not read much of this post. However, from what I have read, I think that you should tell the buyer of the blood female, if you have not already, that there is a possibility that the female could have locked with a ball python. Even though you did not see them, that does not mean that it did not happen. I know that it is only a slight chance, but if I were the buyer, I would want to know.

    I personally do not agree with hybrids, and would never buy a female snake from someone who tried to breed the snake to another species recently.

    Please don't take this as me trying to bash you, because that is not what this post is meant to do.
  • 12-12-2011, 02:35 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mr.spooky View Post
    TIM, im none of what you have described, and i am starting my hybrid project.. ill be looking forward to hearing your face leak crap in the future.
    spooky

    FYI, there are many keepers out there who will not deal with breeders who breed hybrids. Just something to consider before you venture into breeding hybrids.
  • 12-12-2011, 03:27 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    FYI, there are many keepers out there who will not deal with breeders who breed hybrids. Just something to consider before you venture into breeding hybrids.

    Which is only a problem if you look at your animals with dollar signs.

    I'll be pursuing a few hybrid projects at some point in time, but I sure won't let the almighty dollar determine what I do with my free time, my animals, and my hobby.
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