Man feeds puppy to boa.. wait... what?

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

i think we're prosecuting him for feeding off a cute little defenseless puppy. which i don't agree with

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Ok. Here is where I disagree with you. I have no doubt in my mind that using a puppy (coated in oil or not) as a feeder to any snake should be a animal cruelty case. :2cent:

It is morons like this guy (the one who fed the snake the puppy) that ruin it for all of us. We get by day by day, quietly feeding our snakes rats.. mice.. rabbits. People out there disagree with it, but generally don't go parading through the streets or on the internet calling us murderers (generally..) But the "lay people", the general public; they'll read a story like this and it is the first thing they'll think of when they see a snake. "Oh, that thing could eat a cute, adorable puppy! Kill it, it is evil!" Yes, this is how people "think" sadly; with knee-jerk reactions helped along by negative crapola that imbeciles do with their snakes.
I wish that it was not like this; for every good herp story in the news, there are probably 50 bad and negative ones.. no wonder the general public fears and/or hates our snakes. :(
Personally, to me, it is not immoral to feed a canine to a boid at face value. Meat is meat. but the way that he went about it.. oil? Added with the neglected snake; sounds like the guy is a cheap moron who does not like to spend the necessary $$ to feed appropriate, ideal prey.. what a schmuck.
Humans can't be compared to any animal, I feel. You can't say :oh, if it is Ok to feed a dog to a snake, why not feed human infants to it?" Humans have evolved to pretty-much be in charge of this planet; we adapted it to fit our needs and purposes. We have the gift of "reasoning" and know full-well (usually, lol) what we are doing. Animals don't have this same reasoning, or else we would be competing with synthetic cities made by bears, giraffes, etc; hopefully I am making myself clear. I am not trying to say that we are superior to animals; actually, with what crapola we have done with our sense of reasoning, I think that there are definately animals out there that are more intelligent than some humans!

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Originally Posted by AndrewH

If that were true, then why are there all these reptiles in reptile rescues? Why are their so many Iguana's released to animal shelters? If what your saying is true, than most people would let them starve and suffer, rather than turn them in. I've seen more dog abuse cases, than reptile. People around my neighborhood fight dogs...I don't know who it is, but they go around and steal neighborhood dogs, so theirs can "practice", then dump the bodies by the railroad tracks...I've seen people chain their dogs up outside, let them bake in the sun without water or food and let them starve/dehydrate.

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i seem to have hit a nerve. i think dog fighting does not even deserve a mention here, because the people that dog fight are on a whole other level. I'm not saying everyone is going to turn their animals in, I'm saying that they'll be less inclined to care about a silly little reptile. iguanas are different because they can be considered dangerous, but something like a corn snake from petco? how many kids buy them, kill it, buy another, rinse, and repeat?

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

It is morons like this guy (the one who fed the snake the puppy) that ruin it for all of us. We get by day by day, quietly feeding our snakes rats.. mice.. rabbits. People out there disagree with it, but generally don't go parading through the streets or on the internet calling us murderers (generally..) But the "lay people", the general public; they'll read a story like this and it is the first thing they'll think of when they see a snake. "Oh, that thing could eat a cute, adorable puppy! Kill it, it is evil!" Yes, this is how people "think" sadly; with knee-jerk reactions helped along by negative crapola that imbeciles do with their snakes.
I wish that it was not like this; for every good herp story in the news, there are probably 50 bad and negative ones.. no wonder the general public fears and/or hates our snakes. :(
Personally, to me, it is not immoral to feed a canine to a boid at face value. Meat is meat. but the way that he went about it.. oil? Added with the neglected snake; sounds like the guy is a cheap moron who does not like to spend the necessary $$ to feed appropriate, ideal prey.. what a schmuck

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Mucho Kudos

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

i seem to have hit a nerve. i think dog fighting does not even deserve a mention here, because the people that dog fight are on a whole other level. I'm not saying everyone is going to turn their animals in, I'm saying that they'll be less inclined to care about a silly little reptile. iguanas are different because they can be considered dangerous, but something like a corn snake from petco? how many kids buy them, kill it, buy another, rinse, and repeat?

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It was on the basis of animal cruelty, morality, and dog abuse vs. reptile abuse...

To tell you the truth, I see more colubrids such as Corn Snakes go through reptile rescues and shelters, and more turned in than I do lizards and boids...

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

It is morons like this guy (the one who fed the snake the puppy) that ruin it for all of us. We get by day by day, quietly feeding our snakes rats.. mice.. rabbits. People out there disagree with it, but generally don't go parading through the streets or on the internet calling us murderers (generally..) But the "lay people", the general public; they'll read a story like this and it is the first thing they'll think of when they see a snake. "Oh, that thing could eat a cute, adorable puppy! Kill it, it is evil!" Yes, this is how people "think" sadly; with knee-jerk reactions helped along by negative crapola that imbeciles do with their snakes.
I wish that it was not like this; for every good herp story in the news, there are probably 50 bad and negative ones.. no wonder the general public fears and/or hates our snakes. :(
Personally, to me, it is not immoral to feed a canine to a boid at face value. Meat is meat. but the way that he went about it.. oil? Added with the neglected snake; sounds like the guy is a cheap moron who does not like to spend the necessary $$ to feed appropriate, ideal prey.. what a schmuck.
Humans can't be compared to any animal, I feel. You can't say :oh, if it is Ok to feed a dog to a snake, why not feed human infants to it?" Humans have evolved to pretty-much be in charge of this planet; we adapted it to fit our needs and purposes. We have the gift of "reasoning" and know full-well (usually, lol) what we are doing. Animals don't have this same reasoning, or else we would be competing with synthetic cities made by bears, giraffes, etc; hopefully I am making myself clear. I am not trying to say that we are superior to animals; actually, with what crapola we have done with our sense of reasoning, I think that there are definately animals out there that are more intelligent than some humans!

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I can agree with you on some of this, but answer this....why feed a dog? With the availability of prey on the market today for the variety of predatory animals, there's simply no need to feed a dog to any type of carnivorous animal owned...

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Originally Posted by daaangconcepts

Ok. Here is where I disagree with you. I have no doubt in my mind that using a puppy (coated in oil or not) as a feeder to any snake should be a animal cruelty case. :2cent:

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i'm saying the snake should be considered as equally as the puppy, but if it was just the problem of the snake being mistreated no one would care and he'd still be doin his thing, thats all i said there.

to go where you were going.
i kno you love your dogs, but i'm sure if we got a hardcore rabbit enthusiast here they'd feel about us as we do about this guy. really it's all about what you know and what you're used to.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

i'm saying the snake should be considered as equally as the puppy, but if it was just the problem of the snake being mistreated no one would care and he'd still be doin his thing, thats all i said there.

to go where you were going.
i kno you love your dogs, but i'm sure if we got a hardcore rabbit enthusiast here they'd feel about us as we do about this guy. really it's all about what you know and what you're used to.

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I'm a hardcore rat enthusiast....most everyone feeds there snakes rats here. None of my snakes touch mice, unless they have to. All mine start out feeding on rats, and work their way up as they grow. I still keep giant Pythons that feed on Rats, Rabbits, and Pigs...

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I DO NOT SUPPORT HIM FEEDING PUPPIES! I THINK IT'S SICK, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT'S LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO PROSECUTE HIM FOR DOING SO

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here in cali, animal cruelty is a MAJOR thing. now i know why the petco where i work at actually keep the animals habitats clean,becuase if management comes in and sees even 1 animal in bad condition, the store manager is in MAJOR trouble!! so the guy feeding the puppy to the boa was a big deal in cali.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

but if it was just the problem of the snake being mistreated no one would care and he'd still be doin his thing, thats all i said there.

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Not if he got caught neglecting or mistreating the snake.

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and I would care.

:)