Caesar progression thread.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Sauzo, This is what works great for my snakes: I size my soaking bowls as if they are hides, maybe you did too, I can't tell. And I believe it makes my snakes feel more secure, plus they can easily see 170 degrees and another 90 degrees with a slight turn of the head. This way they always know what's going on which is a good defense or for ambush. They also use the bowls even after they have splashed all of the water out.

That's why I believe the bowls are dual purpose, soaking and as a pseudo-hide.

I also believe the round shape helps with feeling more secure than the RB hides.

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Mack

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Butch
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Elvira
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Lizzy on the bottom, Mack in the middle

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Like El-Ziggy said, where do you get those bowls from? And I'm guessing they come in different sizes all the up to a 7' boa?

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Originally Posted by ShaneSilva

I guess the 2 rat breeders I been buying from are both very generous with the weight of their rats. Some of the "smalls" I been feeding were over 100g

You do have nice set ups. I just upgraded a couple tubs today as well. Does Caesar not eat when he's in shed?

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He does but I tend to not feed in shed as it requires them to expend fluids to digest as well as needing fluid to help shed. I mean I will feed him if there is no one left to eat a leftover but between the 2 boas, I never have anything go to waste and with Caesar, it just adds a second layer of protection haha.

Ohhh I didn't know that. Makes sense just never thought about it. I've been feeding even during shed. Haven't had any issues shedding but that's good to know. I don't see how anyone could waste any food with boas and retics lol

Let me guess Reinz, Tractor Supply Company?? I just looked there and found a camo bowl that looks almost exactly like the one you got and that black one looks like the 11" x 11" x 4" deep rubber bowl? Am I right?

And if I'm right, will they work for a 7' boa?

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

I'm digging your setup too Reinz! Are those 6ft enclosures? Where did you find the larger water bowls and are they spill proof?

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Thank you Zig, yes those are 6 footers. AP T-25s bottom and middle, Boaphile on top.

It probably took over a year to settle on the right size bowls.


The heavy plastic ones from Reptile Basics seem to only work best on my up to 5 foot snakes, but may be ok for longer Colubrids.

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After that I found these Camo dog food bowls at some Walmart stores, not every store has them. And I could not find them on the website. They are nice and heavy with good balance and have yet been turned over, even by Lizzy or Mack, 7.5-8 ft, and 7 ft Coastals. Too bad Punch is too big for them. This Butch, my small Boa in his.


The large metal bowl in the Boaphile is too lightweight for my heavy bodied Boa, Punch.(Similar to Sauzo's Rosey) Punch just kept knocking it over and humidity was always too high.

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So I settled on this 14 inch rubber bowl usually found at farm supply stores, but one of my Walmarts had it. The only problem with it is it has that strong funky rubber smell. After many washes the smell is less, but not gone. The bowl is heavy and flexes which helps keep it from tipping.

I found those camo bowls at Tractor Supply Company yesterday. They are the 5 qt ones and are like $10. They offer the normal camo and a pink camo. So far gave one to Caesar and Vic. Will probably pick one up for Dot and Tractor Supply also has those big rubber ones but I didn't get one. That funky rubber smell makes me kind of worried lol. I might have to keep looking for one for Rosey or stick with her dish tub for now.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

I found those camo bowls at Tractor Supply Company yesterday. They are the 5 qt ones and are like $10. They offer the normal camo and a pink camo. So far gave one to Caesar and Vic. Will probably pick one up for Dot and Tractor Supply also has those big rubber ones but I didn't get one. That funky rubber smell makes me kind of worried lol. I might have to keep looking for one for Rosey or stick with her dish tub for now.

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Yeah, I got Lizzy and Elvira the pink Camo. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b1f95a2485.jpg

I understand about that rubber smell. I'm halfway thinking that since Punch uses his bowl as a toilet also, that may drive some of that funky smell out.:D But I do wash it 2-3 times a week with antimicrobial soap and bleach, so the funk IS slowly going away.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

Yeah, I got Lizzy and Elvira the pink Camo. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...b1f95a2485.jpg

I understand about that rubber smell. I'm halfway thinking that since Punch uses his bowl as a toilet also, that may drive some of that funky smell out.:D But I do wash it 2-3 times a week with antimicrobial soap and bleach, so the funk IS slowly going away.

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Lol nice. So does that rubber smell overwhelm the cage? When you open the cage, is it just a super rubber smell? lol

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Lol nice. So does that rubber smell overwhelm the cage? When you open the cage, is it just a super rubber smell? lol

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Even when the rubber was new it would not smell up the cage. And I have a sensitive schnoz. But I could smell it at about chest level when carrying it. Now I have bend down with my nose to smell it. It's much better now.

Yeah I went and sniffed them and I don't know. I ended up skipping on them since also when I was rubbing my fingers on them, it seemed to leave some sticky oil it felt like. I talked to the gal there and she said personally if it was for her boa, she would go stainless steel. She said easier to clean and no smell. I ended up getting the 10 qt one for Rosey. Also thought about if any of that stuff could leach into the water. I'm probably being paranoid but meh lol. I do like those camo bowls though. Picked up 3 of them for Caesar, Vic and Dot.

Haha just noticed, the metal one in your Boaphile is the same one I got Rosey. God I hope she doesn't tip it lol.