who uses water bowls and who dont

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Originally Posted by sho220

The most common description of a Ball python's natural habitat is "dry grassland". And I'm pretty sure they have a dry season as well as a wet season. I've watched a few videos of balls being harvested in the wild and don't recall seeing ponds or creeks...:confusd:

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The area may have a very dry season but I promise you the inside of a termite mound is maintaining some wicked high humidity for most of that season, you know? As in condensing on the walls kind of humidity.

It's very obvious that they do drink water. My humidity stays above 60 and I see mine drinking frequently. So why would I not give her clean water? Making sure she has clean water takes up the least of my time!

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Originally Posted by CptJack

The area may have a very dry season but I promise you the inside of a termite mound is maintaining some wicked high humidity for most of that season, you know? As in condensing on the walls kind of humidity.

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I'm not so sure there's enough condensation build up inside termite mounds for a ball python to actually drink from. They have a pretty good ventilation system and usually maintain steady temps and humidity regardless of outside conditions..around 86 degrees and 90% humidity. I'm sure the soil is moist but I don't think it's dripping wet...


"The termites are able to regulate both temperature and humidity accurately inside the mound. They do this by opening and closing hundreds of openings in the elaborate above ground structures we normally see. These structures are in fact huge thermostats. It has been demonstrated that the workers are able to keep the temperature inside the fungus-growing nurseries constant to within half a degree. Humidity is kept constant by adding or removing moisture. In the Central Kalahari, termites are known to have shafts going hundreds of feet deep into the ground with workers going up and down to add moist soil to increase humidity."

http://my.gorongosa.net/staff/wurste...ltural_gr.html

all i was saying is who used water bowls and who didn't .. it doesn't mean my snakes live in a desert climate in there tubs .. i keep a spag moss in each tub n it gets sprayed down every 2 days .. so there is plenty water there for the snake to drink if it needs it .. my snakes just didn't have a ready water bowl on hand like a dam dog all day every day .. some of u be so built up to try to tell someone else what to do that u act like a fool ..

so a week or 2 ago i decided to throw bowls back in the tubs to see if my snakes would rush to the bowls as if they were dying of thirst ..to be honest with u .. i only seen one snake that actually went to the bowl to get water ..the others acted as if they could care less .. now all but this one i got since hatchling so they could of possibly got used to not having a bowl of water and depending on the water that was sprayed down on the spag ..the one that went to the bowl i got when she was around 2 / 2.5 years old and im sure the breeder i got her from kept a water dish in the tub .. or it could be cause she is older and bigger cause she is sitting at 2000+ and my next biggest are at 900+ ...idk

but what i learned trying this out is most of m snakes look like they could of cared less to have a water bowl in there

one other thing i learned is that some of them spill the ish out of the bowls n i find myself running thru beeding a lot more now

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Originally Posted by creatism

^^^^this guy!
There's absolutely no reason not to give them access to water!


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If you had a suicidal snake that kept trying to drown itself in its water bowl...that would be a good reason lol. Yes i use water bowls. No i do not have suicidal snakes. Yet

Water bowls for the adults... deli cups for the babies and juveniles.

I'll share some experience.

One time I went on vacation for a 1-1/2 weeks and asked my sister to care for may snakes- just make sure the heat doesn't get too high or low and make sure they always have water.

Well, you can probably guess that she didn't do any of that. Luckily the heat stayed perfect, but it was the summer and all 3 of my snakes waters evaporated very fast!

They were probably without water for 5 days.

When I got home and gave them all water and they all rushed out of their hides and took big long drinks before going back into hiding.

Needless to say, I keep fresh, clean water with all my snakes at all times.


Most of the time, you don't see your snakes drink, but they do do it!

just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZqZGHtizeI

python hunting in Ghana. its really green, seedlings growing everywhere. yes you get dry days, but the green near the horizon tells you that agriculture works without adding any water. in the video, the other guys that accompany Stefan Broghammer actually poach two wild clutches and interact with both wild females, and they got both from a termite mound. if you dont want to watch it all, just check above video and skip through it to check the landscape and local agriculture, and then jump to 21:15. that will show you how they pull the second clutch, from a wild female, out of a thermite mound. they handle the wild female like a pet.

it obviously didnt rain for a few days, but its obviously humid year-round, with all the green seedlings and stuff growing from everywhere, and as soon as they cut into the soil, you can see that it is moist. Stefan Broghammer also repeatedly takes temperature readings of everything with a compact infrared thermometer, in celsius/centigrade, you can see him going down in the dirt and putting his arm into the cavity as deep as he can to get a reading.

semi-desert my a**, i mean, behind. thats like ireland, just with more sun and warmer. green is the default color. lots of evaporation, and each night, condensation everywhere, you can lick distilled water from leaves every morning.

im over the 10 minutes..... so i cannot edit.

but the subtitles, accessed via captions, are quite excellent for the video, and i assumed crappy subtitles.

so, really, if you want to see several wild ball pythons interacted with and clutches being pulled from the wild, watch it. and the subtitles are really good if you get them activated correctly :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZqZGHtizeI you can watch it and the subtitles are good enough to follow it all.

look at the horizon whenever it is in frame. its damn green, really green, all the time.

Personally, I would never under any circumstances even consider not providing water to any animal, no matter what kind it is. Water is a basic requirement for life. And while misting may provide moisture, unless your snakes talk, how do you know it's enough? To me, it borders on cruelty to not provide water. And speaking of cruelty, you better hope you don't get reported by someone near you, because BY LAW any animal kept as a pet must have access to fresh water at all times, or you could loose your pet. Just saying.

Gale