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  • 11-16-2012, 11:45 PM
    angllady2
    Everyone involved in this business has my deepest sympathy and condolences. I'm pretty much going to leave it at that. Ben, his wife, his employees, his customers, his close friends and not so close friends are all in my thoughts. The last few weeks have been incredibly stressful for anyone and everyone connected to Ben and BSR. It is my sincere hope that time will heal the wounds and allow people to get back some semblance of a normal life.

    I wish you all the best.

    Gale
  • 11-16-2012, 11:48 PM
    adamsky27
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Braveliltoaster View Post
    I have just been sitting back and watching everything unfold and not passing judgement but something that sits wrong with me is on one of his auctions tonight (spider ball) a no name, no profile picture no info nothing bid on the auction to drive the price over Ben's retail price and then claimed to "just be trying to help him out". It will be interesting to see how everything settles. I guess as long as the animals involved in this whole mess are well cared for that is all that matters in the end.


    I didn't see that. I personally wouldn't buy one of his regular daily auctions. I'd rather get a quality, prime example of a morph from a breeder. Most of his auctions are pet quality and I'm all for that, they just don't fit into my plans. I hope he gets it all figured out soon.
  • 11-17-2012, 12:01 AM
    SugarFox03
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Braveliltoaster View Post
    I have just been sitting back and watching everything unfold and not passing judgement but something that sits wrong with me is on one of his auctions tonight (spider ball) a no name, no profile picture no info nothing bid on the auction to drive the price over Ben's retail price and then claimed to "just be trying to help him out". It will be interesting to see how everything settles. I guess as long as the animals involved in this whole mess are well cared for that is all that matters in the end.

    Just an FYI...that animal in the store had a price tag of $350 - in fact I quoted someone that price on her the day we were all fired.
  • 11-17-2012, 12:26 AM
    wilomn
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cecilbturtle View Post
    Ah gothcya... see what happens when you don't read 10+ pages of in a thread? Boy is my face red. :oops:

    Still, I don't think many people without the disorder would have reacted much better.

    Sometimes it's a chore to get the info, but putting in the time does save on hoof-in-mouth ointments.

    Whatever is happening is going to no matter what any of us think. If he's off his meds hopefully he'll go back on and level out. Sometimes life just sucks, which is WHY you should live, as far as I'm concerned, as much as possible, in the now, the moment. The ONLY promise ever made to you that will, as of now as far as I know, be kept, is that your ride WILL end. I'd rather enjoy my ride than not.

    I hope Ben can enjoy his again too.
  • 11-17-2012, 12:49 AM
    cecilbturtle
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Sometimes it's a chore to get the info, but putting in the time does save on hoof-in-mouth ointments.

    Whatever is happening is going to no matter what any of us think. If he's off his meds hopefully he'll go back on and level out. Sometimes life just sucks, which is WHY you should live, as far as I'm concerned, as much as possible, in the now, the moment. The ONLY promise ever made to you that will, as of now as far as I know, be kept, is that your ride WILL end. I'd rather enjoy my ride than not.

    I hope Ben can enjoy his again too.

    yes yes...I should have known better. I feel sheepish. Thanks for pointing out my obvious error in judgement.

    As for the rest of your comment. Well said. Life is too short. Sometime making these mistakes is part of the ride that makes it tolerable. After all, how can you measure your highs if you don't experience the lows? And I know you know that we both have experienced the lowest of lows... makes you appreciate the middles more and the highs even more. Too bad all too often it takes that "dip" to see it that way.
  • 11-17-2012, 01:02 AM
    BrandiR
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cecilbturtle View Post
    yes yes...I should have known better. I feel sheepish. Thanks for pointing out my obvious error in judgement.

    As for the rest of your comment. Well said. Life is too short. Sometime making these mistakes is part of the ride that makes it tolerable. After all, how can you measure your highs if you don't experience the lows? And I know you know that we both have experienced the lowest of lows... makes you appreciate the middles more and the highs even more. Too bad all too often it takes that "dip" to see it that way.

    Stop blushing and feeling sheepish. When the "breakdown freak out mental issue" was initially posted here, it hadn't been posted on FB yet. So, while he did eventually did post about it, people did jump to that conclusion. Maybe that speculation is what prompted him to mantion it?
  • 11-17-2012, 01:09 AM
    cecilbturtle
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrandiR View Post
    Stop blushing and feeling sheepish. When the "breakdown freak out mental issue" was initially posted here, it hadn't been posted on FB yet. So, while he did eventually did post about it, people did jump to that conclusion. Maybe that speculation is what prompted him to mantion it?

    Regardless of when it was made public, I will admit I didn't read every comment completely. If I'm going to make a comment like that I should give the respect to read the entire thread. I would expect the same from everyone else. So sheepish I shall feel and apologetic I shall be :oops:
  • 11-17-2012, 01:27 AM
    BrandiR
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cecilbturtle View Post
    Regardless of when it was made public, I will admit I didn't read every comment completely. If I'm going to make a comment like that I should give the respect to read the entire thread. I would expect the same from everyone else. So sheepish I shall feel and apologetic I shall be :oops:

    I'm impressed. People with gourds like yours usually try to get away with everything :)
  • 11-17-2012, 01:31 AM
    wilomn
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BrandiR View Post
    I'm impressed. People with gourds like yours usually try to get away with everything :)

    Luke is alright. Used to be wound pretty tight, but he's got a better handle on life than a lot of people. Not a bad guy at all. (if you ask around, I almost NEVER say anything good about anyone, so pay attention)
  • 11-17-2012, 02:39 AM
    cecilbturtle
    Re: Ben Siegel Reptiles, wow what is going on?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Luke is alright. Used to be wound pretty tight, but he's got a better handle on life than a lot of people. Not a bad guy at all. (if you ask around, I almost NEVER say anything good about anyone, so pay attention)

    Aww shucks :D
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