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I haven't had to mist at all. It's just so damp in there it's crazy.
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Do you use any water to help break up the coco blocks?
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Holy cow!! Mills Fleet Farm recently changed it then to no shipping on the aspen. I had 3 bags shipped to me on a free shipping deal back in November on a Thanksgiving deal.
Well since you have only a couple animals, my vote then would be for Zoo Med aspen. The stuff is by far the best aspen I've seen but costs more. I got mine from https://www.chewy.com/zoo-med-aspen-...-bag/dp/123800
I get all my substrate from Chewy. They are awesome with prices and the delivery is crazy fast. Ordered 11 bags of Zoo Med Forest Floor cypress from them last week on a Friday and it was here by Tuesday. Just be sure to order over $49 so you get the free 2 day shipping.
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Holy cow!! Mills Fleet Farm recently changed it then to no shipping on the aspen. I had 3 bags shipped to me on a free shipping deal back in November on a Thanksgiving deal.
Well since you have only a couple animals, my vote then would be for Zoo Med aspen. The stuff is by far the best aspen I've seen but costs more. I got mine from
https://www.chewy.com/zoo-med-aspen-...-bag/dp/123800
I get all my substrate from Chewy. They are awesome with prices and the delivery is crazy fast. Ordered 11 bags of Zoo Med Forest Floor cypress from them last week on a Friday and it was here by Tuesday. Just be sure to order over $49 so you get the free 2 day shipping.
Think this will work? Seems like it's just Aspen. It's in the rodent section vs the reptile and half the price. Its $13https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a5f69b358d.jpg
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I personally like the shredded stuff better but this should work too. May not be quite as absorbent but who knows, I’ve never used the shaved aspen
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I personally like the shredded stuff better but this should work too. May not be quite as absorbent but who knows, I’ve never used the shaved aspen
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For a small bag it was $18. Is Jane too but like 6 bags!
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For a small bag it was $18. Is Jane too but like 6 bags!
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Wha? Who’s Jane? Hahah
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That's shaved stuff. I wouldnt use it. It wont pack down so you would be digging around for poop and piss. Plus i dont think shaved absorbs as well as shredded, but thats just me.
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Well I bought it, for $13 I'll give it a try. If it keeps the humidity in range, then I'll find a source online for the good stuff.
Wish me luck boys
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A few general observations of Aspen. I read online that Aspen dust "causes cancer" but only in the state of California. So on my way home I stopped and looked at the reptile bags of Aspen say the same warning as my hamster bag of Aspen.
Light weight and 100% dry is far less dusty than Reptichip when it drys. It's very light and fluffy so I'm curious how much will end up in the water dish.
Visually, I hate the way the snakes look on it. You don't get that beautiful stark contrast that makes the snakes burst with the lights on.
I moved Gene's water dish far to the cool side. To keep the humidity as far down as I can. The basement is at a minimum humidity of like 60% even with the dehumidifier on. Gene just sinks to the floor even with the litter dam maxed out with Aspen. He was unsure in it at first but slowly put is body in it. He has been all over his enclosure for the last 2 hours. Guessing he's just adjusting.
Tina like usual just loved it. Dug around for a while then went to her hide.
Looking forward to see how it will hold up. Worried about finding pre and pop because it will blend in more.
Ps. I did but Gene's hide back in, thermometers and his logs. He also didn't seem fazed chilling in Tina's enclosure for 2 hours. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...14322a5f21.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cdcf515581.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c7632f117d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...87212b1022.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cb5b240f8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...191ed7ed88.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9c5cd6fe26.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5c609e3758.jpg
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I don't mind that type of aspen, I used it with my boas in the past and currently use it for my colubrids. It should deff help keep humidity down compared to eco earth and coco husk type substrates.
I use a kitty litter scoop to run through it for spot cleaning to pull out the poops. :)
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Aspen update, seems to be okay so far. A little hard to find pee but not to bad. It smells like a horse inside of their enclosures.
Gene Happy he got a jumbo rat a few days early. I have 4 Jumbos left, they don't leave a lump anymore but his pushing isn't any worse than it's always been. So not sure to bump him up or just leave him?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...edae107709.jpg
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Update #2
Gene got Aspen in his mouth and he is pissed.
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Aspen update, seems to be okay so far. A little hard to find pee but not to bad. It smells like a horse inside of their enclosures.
Gene Happy he got a jumbo rat a few days early. I have 4 Jumbos left, they don't leave a lump anymore but his pushing isn't any worse than it's always been. So not sure to bump him up or just leave him?
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Gerald eats jumbos and they don’t leave a terribly big bump either. Big enough that I won’t increase size though. I feel like he and gene are close to the same size, Gerald may be a little smaller
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Aspen update, seems to be okay so far. A little hard to find pee but not to bad. It smells like a horse inside of their enclosures.
Gene Happy he got a jumbo rat a few days early. I have 4 Jumbos left, they don't leave a lump anymore but his pushing isn't any worse than it's always been. So not sure to bump him up or just leave him?
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...edae107709.jpg
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Fed Rainbow a jumbo last night. You can see a little limp but not much of one. 3 weeks ago she eat 2 of them in one feeding. Last week she only eat one. This week only eat one and was looking for another. I think I am going to have to transfer her to rabbits full time. Will be placing an order in a week.
Gene looks great! Happy to see him doing so well despite the pushing.
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What a weird day outside today. Dragged Gene outside while thinking about building Gene a forever enclosure vs. buying a monster Animal Plastics. That damn Robin was f*cling with us again. Would swoop low and bomb us multiple times while yelling or chirping. Then the rabbit came back and was :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ing around. Got annoyed with the bird so we went to the front yard where Gene climbed off of me and onto Kendall's Jeep, where he eventually just fell asleep for about 45 minutes.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fe4562b89f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...80e67170de.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e2d50d270d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...193307d86a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b708e00ddc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a6d03235b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9267e8a471.jpg
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Robin probably has a nest nearby and was protecting it. I have had them dive bomb me too when i got hear their nest tree. Lucky Gene didnt snatch it mid flight lol. My beardie snatched a wasp in mid flight. She leaped into the air and grabbed it as i was reaching for a paper to twist and swat it.
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Love the last set of pictures.
Totally awesome.
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What are your guys ideas on how to seal wood enclosures? I've been really pushing around the ideas of making Gene an enclosure soon. I have a wall in the basement that the snakes are against that is around 7.5' long. I really want to make this a forever home for him. I want some height so I can get some limbs set up like Gio and Jacob. Melamine sucks because it's just co.pressed particle board.
Is fiberglass my only option? I've looked online but most stuff is just basic information.
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I’ve been looking around at these options too. You could do an epoxy resin sealer? Like you would use on a wooden bar top. Coat every panel of the cage then assemble and caulk the seams to make it totally waterproof. Melamine would be the faster build but I agree, it’s just crappy particle board with a slick veneer. If/when I do build a big cage I’m going for cabinet grade plywood probably birch or maple with a light ebony stain and seal with a yet to be determined finish.
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I’ve been looking around at these options too. You could do an epoxy resin sealer? Like you would use on a wooden bar top. Coat every panel of the cage then assemble and caulk the seams to make it totally waterproof. Melamine would be the faster build but I agree, it’s just crappy particle board with a slick veneer. If/when I do build a big cage I’m going for cabinet grade plywood probably birch or maple with a light ebony stain and seal with a yet to be determined finish.
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Ballistic birch plywood is amazing. Its dense and has 7 layers.
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Someone's thirsty.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...410abb9601.jpg
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Out keeping the neighbors away on this extremely hot 4th of July.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a9756b1752.jpg
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Beautiful picture!
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I bought my nephew a ball python before they moved to Florida last year, I guess it's a runt. So when they came up to visit over the weekend, they got to meet Gene and Tina. Funny watching my grandma handle the snakes better than my sister and nephew! They were both great and tolerated them being picked up alot.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cde5c229d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b09e79ccb9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fb5381823c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8c95425ecb.jpg
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Fast forward to today, Gene is temperamental and seems annoyed. I think he's in shed, but sometimes his eyes never cloud over and he doesn't really darken up much. I pulled his hide because he was flipping up and all over. So he just has a pen and a water dish. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...34985c6c1c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...edab5fddee.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...70b52536c5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1b56b8e7dc.jpg
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Aspen *
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He’s looking nice dude! What’s that critter weight nowadays? Definitely looks bigger than Gerald but definitely not as big as Phyllis. He’s a perfect size imo
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Even if he is in shed his colors still look amazing!
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Pretty sure he's broken, possibly dead.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7a974cd3cd.jpg
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He’s looking nice dude! What’s that critter weight nowadays? Definitely looks bigger than Gerald but definitely not as big as Phyllis. He’s a perfect size imo
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I'll get some good measurements once he's out of shed. He was right around 14lbs a few months back.
After watching that link in Phyllis thread melamine isn't a bad option. Super cheap and if you use flex seal it'll last forever plus it comes in white. Hell if I can make a boat from a screen door I can deal a snake tank. I have 7' of wall so I think it's a go. Just need a good source for glass.
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I'll get some good measurements once he's out of shed. He was right around 14lbs a few months back.
After watching that link in Phyllis thread melamine isn't a bad option. Super cheap and if you use flex seal it'll last forever plus it comes in white. Hell if I can make a boat from a screen door I can deal a snake tank. I have 7' of wall so I think it's a go. Just need a good source for glass.
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Yeah it’s not a bad cage design at all. The only thing that deters me from melamine aside from possible water/humidity damage is the weight. A sheet of nice plywood is what, 50-60lbs? A sheet of melamine is something stupid like 85lbs. But then there’s the time and $ invested in sealing a plywood cage that wouldn’t be necessary with melamine... hrmmm dot dot dot question mark
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Update, still in shed and basically dead.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7780a5b0a1.jpg
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That snake looks so damn funny and pathetic in shed! 🤣
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He really does look like he’s feeling sorry for himself
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Well he is super dead today.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...39d13eed46.jpg
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Looks so uncomfortable
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Gene Finally needs a chiropractor LOL!
That neck bend,,,,, ouch!!
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Hey Steve, you notice any drying on the belly of Gene using those chips? I know Caesar used to get a little drier feeling belly as well as Dottie when i used aspen even though i would give the aspen a good misting usually once a week. I think JM also had a little dry belly with Phyllis using aspen as well if i remember right.
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Hey Steve, you notice any drying on the belly of Gene using those chips? I know Caesar used to get a little drier feeling belly as well as Dottie when i used aspen even though i would give the aspen a good misting usually once a week. I think JM also had a little dry belly with Phyllis using aspen as well if i remember right.
Haven't noticed but I'm not sold on it. Might mix some no float into it but I'm not sure. Ugh
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Still patiently waiting for him to shed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...69f53036e0.jpg
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LOL!
The face looks more and more irritated.
I like Gene.
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Lol Pat finally shed last night. He was looking pretty uncomfortable as well with laying his head sideways on his body. Add to this, him being on a stick and it really made it look uncomfortable.
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Gene looks so amazing. Love the pattern and personality here.
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Lol Pat finally shed last night. He was looking pretty uncomfortable as well with laying his head sideways on his body. Add to this, him being on a stick and it really made it look uncomfortable.
Didn't know Pat was sick. What is going on with him? Don't mean to hijack the thread here. Will look at Pats thread.
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Lol Pat finally shed last night. He was looking pretty uncomfortable as well with laying his head sideways on his body. Add to this, him being on a stick and it really made it look uncomfortable.
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Didn't know Pat was sick. What is going on with him? Don't mean to hijack the thread here. Will look at Pats thread.
On a stick, not sick. Talking about the weird pouty I hate the world emo positions snakes take when they are in shed.
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On a stick, not sick. Talking about the weird pouty I hate the world emo positions snakes take when they are in shed.
Need more coffee!
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