How often should a 4mnth Bp defecate if fed 1 fuzzie mouse a week?

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

Ight so you all seem to be missing the SIMPLE facts here... anyone can come on here and pretend to be a educated snake owner can they not?... the website was just an example. Did I say bc he doesnt have a website he must not know anything about snakes? Naw def not. Most... again I didnt do any research here ... most well know breeders have a website of some sort where they sell their snakes... As far as research... i dont need research to point out the obvious... Did I say bc hes only made 18 posts he must not know anything about snakes? No that was simply saysing that he could be a 14 yr old messing around on the computer... happens all the time. What I think is funny is Davey Fig joins today to support this guy... and mooings been a member for 2 yrs and comes out of the wood work as well... Just out of curiosity where did I say bc hes only been a member for a yr and made 18posts so he doesnt know anything? You wont find it bc I never said it... It was mere observation after scrolling over this thread for like 2 mins... I guess next time I need to research 2 hrs to point out the obvious?

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Ight????

Wow, how fast opinions may change. Back to the hole.

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

Gib(Chris) may be a "well known member to the community" but Ive been here for 5 months and never seen his name posted before, never read anything until this. How many newbies have joined since the same time I did?... they as well have no clue who he is... If he had a profile... some pics... a website... a name on his signature... SOMETHING.... atleast then Id have something to "research" but all I and other posters have are GIB and his date of birth... Unfortunately I didnt go to crime school so I guess ill just take the info thats available to me... how long hes been here and how many posts hes made. It may not be a good indicator of someones knowledge but its all thats available.

In the end I of all people could care less what he feed his snake. I know what its like to stray from the norm and take heat for it... As everyones now pointed out ... theres more than 1 way than to care for animals and this is just another example.

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Oh boy, I'm getting me some pictures, a website, and a signature. Then I can be an expert...

Thats all I need right? Without that stuff there is no way anyone can know answers to questions!!!!

This thread is out there....

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

Gib(Chris) may be a "well known member to the community" but Ive been here for 5 months and never seen his name posted before, never read anything until this. How many newbies have joined since the same time I did?... they as well have no clue who he is... If he had a profile... some pics... a website... a name on his signature... SOMETHING.... atleast then Id have something to "research" but all I and other posters have are GIB and his date of birth... Unfortunately I didnt go to crime school so I guess ill just take the info thats available to me... how long hes been here and how many posts hes made. It may not be a good indicator of someones knowledge but its all thats available.

In the end I of all people could care less what he feed his snake. I know what its like to stray from the norm and take heat for it... As everyones now pointed out ... theres more than 1 way than to care for animals and this is just another example.

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Josh, while I am sure you have seen it all in your long 5 month run on this site, isn't it a little bit silly to think that because YOU haven't heard of him that he has nothing to offer, or that his information is of lesser value than that of a veteran like yourself?
If you and the "newbies" haven't heard of him, then you are missing out. If this is the only site that you participate in, then perhaps you should venture out and see what else is out there. There are many different ideas about husbandry out there that you may never even read if you limit yourself to one source.
You keep hinting that if he had a site, or posts that he would have more credibility, and that all you have to go by is what he says. You also make mention that anyone could just make up a name and post whatever they want.
It's 2007, and the age of the internet is in full swing. It is just as easy to make up a profile, or a website as it is to make up a catchy user name. You say that all we have to go on is his name and his date of birth, so I was wondering, do you think it is difficult to make up a birthday when registering? I could come on here, and make up any name I want, and link to someone else's site, show pics, have a pretty avatar, and post nearly 500 posts in a handfull of months. Would I be looked at as more credible?
I think the best idea with threads like this is to look at the information given, and rather than attempt to discredit someone you know nothing about, share your own experiences. The better you support your ideas, the the better your side looks. You don't have to attack an individual to make your side look better. Simple proof of your success with your tried and true methods is often enough to lead even the newest of newbies to believe that your technique is the route they want to choose.
I know you mentioned in another post that I just showed up yesterday, and came only to support Gib. I would LOVE to hear why that was even mentioned. It's true, I did come here for just that reason. I wouldn't have known about this site if it weren't for your posts being shared in a group of experienced keepers. I think expanding the member base is good, regardless of how people get here. I am sorry that my first post was in support of someone rather than something on feeding, or posting a picture.By the way, I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on in my support in Chris if I didn't have 9 snakes from him. He sent me a group to see how I liked ball pythons.
You then mentioned Alicia (mooing). Again, I wonder what it has to do with anything? She has been here a while, and hasn't posted...and? So you woke a sleeping giant, and are upset by the outcome. Again, I'm sorry things didn't end up the way you had hoped, but that happens when you poke people. Alicia is one of those people who if you treat her right, will always be there for you, through thick and thin. She doesn't always have something to say, but when she does you can bet it is because she is passionate about what she is saying.At ties she makes me second guess my offline friends. You would be fortunate to have someone like her in your corner.
It really is too bad that you don't know of Chris. He really is a great guy, and I would bet that the reason he doesn't have a site is that he sells out every year without one. He doesn't post ads because he doesnt have to. He doesn't need a contact page on a glittery site for you to find him, because he is always around somewhere. I think he is estimating a year of 300 babies...I bet this time next year he doesn't have any left, and still won't have a site. I think I am rambling, so I will end this for now.

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Originally Posted by DaveyFig

Josh, while I am sure you have seen it all in your long 5 month run on this site, isn't it a little bit silly to think that because YOU haven't heard of him that he has nothing to offer, or that his information is of lesser value than that of a veteran like yourself?
If you and the "newbies" haven't heard of him, then you are missing out. If this is the only site that you participate in, then perhaps you should venture out and see what else is out there. There are many different ideas about husbandry out there that you may never even read if you limit yourself to one source.
You keep hinting that if he had a site, or posts that he would have more credibility, and that all you have to go by is what he says. You also make mention that anyone could just make up a name and post whatever they want.
It's 2007, and the age of the internet is in full swing. It is just as easy to make up a profile, or a website as it is to make up a catchy user name. You say that all we have to go on is his name and his date of birth, so I was wondering, do you think it is difficult to make up a birthday when registering? I could come on here, and make up any name I want, and link to someone else's site, show pics, have a pretty avatar, and post nearly 500 posts in a handfull of months. Would I be looked at as more credible?
I think the best idea with threads like this is to look at the information given, and rather than attempt to discredit someone you know nothing about, share your own experiences. The better you support your ideas, the the better your side looks. You don't have to attack an individual to make your side look better. Simple proof of your success with your tried and true methods is often enough to lead even the newest of newbies to believe that your technique is the route they want to choose.
I know you mentioned in another post that I just showed up yesterday, and came only to support Gib. I would LOVE to hear why that was even mentioned. It's true, I did come here for just that reason. I wouldn't have known about this site if it weren't for your posts being shared in a group of experienced keepers. I think expanding the member base is good, regardless of how people get here. I am sorry that my first post was in support of someone rather than something on feeding, or posting a picture.By the way, I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on in my support in Chris if I didn't have 9 snakes from him. He sent me a group to see how I liked ball pythons.
You then mentioned Alicia (mooing). Again, I wonder what it has to do with anything? She has been here a while, and hasn't posted...and? So you woke a sleeping giant, and are upset by the outcome. Again, I'm sorry things didn't end up the way you had hoped, but that happens when you poke people. Alicia is one of those people who if you treat her right, will always be there for you, through thick and thin. She doesn't always have something to say, but when she does you can bet it is because she is passionate about what she is saying.At ties she makes me second guess my offline friends. You would be fortunate to have someone like her in your corner.
It really is too bad that you don't know of Chris. He really is a great guy, and I would bet that the reason he doesn't have a site is that he sells out every year without one. He doesn't post ads because he doesnt have to. He doesn't need a contact page on a glittery site for you to find him, because he is always around somewhere. I think he is estimating a year of 300 babies...I bet this time next year he doesn't have any left, and still won't have a site. I think I am rambling, so I will end this for now.

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Davey Dude, use paragraphs man!!:8:
lol
love you davey!

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

Davey Dude, use paragraphs man!!:8:
lol
love you davey!

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I have given up on indenting when posting. I try to break up thoughts into blocks,however on several forums I have tried indenting paragraphs only to have them all alligned left when posted.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I'm curious as to the weight on those large and jumbo rats. And what is the size of the BP eating them and how often.

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The rats are 250-350 grams...The Balls eating them are in between 4 to 5 1/2 feet...They don't get big meals every week...Mainly before breeding and after they lay eggs to beef them back up...They are maintained on 150-200 gram rats...

All of these just ate 300 gram rats...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...00grams001.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...00grams003.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...00grams004.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...00grams005.jpg

Fo sho, send me that lesser and ghost! :D

Just one note - from a novice and a newbie to the forums - despite the differing opinions on some issues, I find the site enormously informative, from husbandry to handling to feeding. I throughly enjoy reading posts by the experts and consider just about everyone more knowlegeable than I am.

Through all of that, I feel as though my dear bp is healthy and happy and I owe that to many of the folks on this site. I appreciate the varied points of view.:)

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Originally Posted by cheryls

Just one note - from a novice and a newbie to the forums - despite the differing opinions on some issues, I find the site enormously informative, from husbandry to handling to feeding. I throughly enjoy reading posts by the experts and consider just about everyone more knowlegeable than I am.

Through all of that, I feel as though my dear bp is healthy and happy and I owe that to many of the folks on this site. I appreciate the varied points of view.:)

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Makes it all worth while to see post like yours. :)

I find it hard to believe that folks still argue on issues not even related to the topic of this thread but it is a lot of fun to read the posts.
Well ai fugured you may be interested to know that I moved up my 4mnth old girl from fuzzie mice to small rats. It nailed the rat right away and it took her good 20 min to swallow, but shte did.
Some of you may ask how come I didn move up to small or medium mice or rat pups and the answer is that at the Petco where I get my roddents from there are onlylarge mice or small rats. I bought one of each and the small rat was 80 grams versus the mouce which was 100grams. That actually turned out pretty good because I wanted to switch her to rats as most of you guys said. My snake weighted 164 grams before the meal and 242 after the meal . (the 2 grams were used up in the swallowing process which seemed to be quite energy consuming :D http://picasaweb.google.com/drugaria...34561495995714
http://picasaweb.google.com/drugaria...34286618088706
http://picasaweb.google.com/drugaria...34647395341650
That's a happy snake :snake: and a full stomach !