Spiders????

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

All I am saying is, IMO 99% of the keepers, hobbyist and small breeders out there are good honest well intent people that will support you regardless of what price they sell for!

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In my experience over the years it seems that the scammers are in far greater numbers than 1% ... I'm speaking from real experience in this hobby/business ... more than just a couple of snakes and a couple of years worth ... this is and has been my life for a long time.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

If people only bought from those who've been around for 10 years and made $1,000,000+, no one would buy from 99% of the members on these forums who for the most part have great snakes and are honest good caring hobbyist

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First of all, no one is making a million dollars breeding snakes ... get that idea out of your head ... second, if you had any idea of the real scope of the ball market, you'd realize that 99% of the ball pythons sold are sold by 1% of the ball breeders out there and those breeders are the top echelon of this hobby/business ... the numbers that the big guys are producing and selling are several orders of magnitude higher than all of the small guys combined. The ball python market is HUGE, and the ball python market is STRONG, there is plenty of room for the smaller hobby breeders to sell there animals for whatever prices.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I see nothing wrong with those who buy from NERD or RDR and the other Big breeders. I see nothing wrong with those who decide to pay more money than me.

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Yet you feel the need to go on and on with this??

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I've never read a single thread from someone buying from these Big breeders and getting beat or harassed for possibly paying too much.

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

those who want to dictate price!

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You proved my point exactly ... thank you Steven!

So who are the people that want to dictate price? Don't be shy, name some names!!! We'd all like to know! :D :sweeet:

-adam

Adam, a few members on this thread mentioned that the price for Spiders that they have seen and even sold is somewhere between $700-$800. You indicated that your price was $1000, then those that posted $700-$800 were accused by some calling those selling at those prices dumpers or lesser breeders or people that may not service their customers. Not only that, but you can read other posts where anyone mentions a good deal and WAM!

I think it's clear where the dictatorship lies in this biz! :D :sweeet:

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

You indicated that your price was $1000

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That is untrue. I never once mentioned anything about my prices in this thread nor did I EVER suggest what price any animal SHOULD BE sold for.

Dictatorship? Where in the world are you getting that from? How can anyone control what anyone else does in this business? You seem to be a little out of touch with reality on that one Steven.

As a matter of fact, on this very thread I've stated ..

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Nothing wrong with being on a tight budget and looking for deals! ... The cool thing about this hobby is that there are breeders that cater to customers on every level. ;) :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I say good for the people that get the deals! ... They have a right to brag!

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I think my point was that it doesn't matter if you're looking to save a few bucks (for whatever reason) or if you're looking for a higher end shopping experience, there are breeders in this business that can satisfy every type of consumer. :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Steven,

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that ... you've made a lot of posts in this thread that seem to be justifying getting getting "deals" on animals ... no need to defend yourself, everyone loves deals and no one is saying that you're wrong for buying like that ... if it works for you great!

-adam

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I believe in live and let live and people making their own choices ... I give my point of view here because this is a "discussion board" and I am "discussing" ... I don't expect anyone to agree with me or do as I say, the notion that anyone would is ridiculous ... I do expect that my opinions would at least be respected just as I respect yours and everyone else’s ... I think that mature people know how to just agree to disagree ... I guess that is too much to expect of you Steven ... I'm highly insulted by your insinuation.

And if you'd like to resort to name calling ... fine, call me what you will ... from the bevy of PM's that I just got, it's clear to everyone where your maturity level is.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

And if you'd like to resort to name calling ... fine, call me what you will ...
-adam

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Name calling doesn't help anything, that itself is immature... I would much rather discuss as I am doing right now. No need to add any negativity to a discussion that only ruins things...

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

Name calling doesn't help anything, that itself is immature...

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So why the need to call me a dictator? Grow up.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

this is a "discussion board" and I am "discussing" ...I do expect that my opinions would at least be respected just as I respect yours and everyone else’s ... I think that mature people know how to just agree to disagree ... I guess that is too much to expect of you Steven ...

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

So why the need to call me a dictator? Grow up.

-adam

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so Let's please keep this a healthy positive mature discussion please...

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

so Let's please keep this a healthy positive mature discussion please...

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So calling me a dictator is "a healthy positive mature discussion"? Are you high?

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

So calling me a dictator is "a healthy positive mature discussion"? Are you high?

-adam

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I didn't call you a dictator...why are you taking things so personal?
And I'm doing my part in keeping this healthy/positive/mature...I never said anything about calling people names or anything...just simply debating and having a discussion voicing MY opinion

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Originally Posted by djslurp1200

I didn't call you a dictator...why are you taking things so personal?
And I'm doing my part in keeping this healthy/positive/mature...I never said anything about calling people names or anything...just simply debating and having a discussion voicing MY opinion

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No, but honestly Steve, you sure implied it:

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You indicated that your price was $1000, then those that posted $700-$800 were accused by some calling those selling at those prices dumpers or lesser breeders or people that may not service their customers. Not only that, but you can read other posts where anyone mentions a good deal and WAM!

I think it's clear where the dictatorship lies in this biz! :D :sweeet:

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Adam, you're taking this wayyy too personal...lol. I don't think in any of my posts do I mention your name or your posts! I was voicing my opinion and point of views on a subject matter being discussed in general on a public forum. I was simply debating and having a discussion, if you decided along the way this was a personal attack, you may be a tad too sensitive about the subject. Yet somehow, you feel when others are being put down for any reason, they should not take it personal and laugh it off.

Have a nice day Adam.