New smoking restrictions in Washington. Oh boy!

Why should I be the one who has to walk away? Why are the people NOT smoking the ones who have to be bothered and walk away? That makes no sense. The smokers are the ones changing the smell of the immediate vicinity. Why do the people who AREN'T changing it, but rather enjoying clean air, be the ones who have to walk away?

Sure, let me walk right up beside you while you are, say, watching the tigers at the zoo with your children. I light a small fire that gives off horrible smelling smoke, a smell that gets in your hair and on your clothes, and you are breathing in when you DON'T want to. At this point, I simply tell you that if you don't like it, walk away.

That is utterly ridiculous.

I don't care if second hand smoke has ZERO health risk. I shouldn't be forced to smell it, nor should I be forced to walk away.

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Originally Posted by shelliebear

People in WA state receiving housing assistance can no longer smoke within 25 feet of any building entrance in any of the state's subsidized housing programs.
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Originally Posted by shelliebear

Inknsteel, in WA state you have to be 25 feet away from ALL public entrances. It's been the law for like 2 years ish I think now. It's not just apartments funded by the state.

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Sorry, I'm not researching the state laws in WA, just going by what was said in the initial post. And to me, it just looks like a topic that got blown out of proportion and turned into a debate over government overstepping and getting involved where they shouldn't. My interpretation is that they simply want the government subsidized housing to be smoke-free and if you want to take advantage of tax dollars by using the government subsidized housing programs, you should be able to adhere to their rules. If you want to smoke outside your front door, you are entitled to find public housing and do so. I didn't see anything in the initial post stating that they were limiting where you can smoke in relation to public or privately owned property. It appears (again from the content of the original post) that the new legislation only applies to government subsidized housing. Maybe I'm missing something...

Your interpretation of the new law is correct. We already have a standing law that you cannot smoke within 25 feet of the entrance of any public building or business as well.

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In all honesty, as a smoker, I think it should be our responsibility to keep our habit away from others. I like to drive fast, and have some road rage at times, but when I do I have to pay attention to my surroundings. If I want to go out and fire a shotgun a few times, I'm sure not going to do it around a crowd of people.

We all have bad habits, and some of them are dangerous around people. Does that mean they should be banned, no. That means that we need to be responsible for what we choose to do.

As far as rules & regulations go, it should be up to the business owners to decide whether or not smoking is allowed. We have a bar here that was split in two. One side for smokers and another for non smokers. People loved it. The building I work at has rules about smoking around it. If I want to smoke I have to go to my car, or by the street. I am fine with it, because that is their choice. I don't have to work here, but I love my job. I wish people in general were more considerate for others. The would would be a better place. Both for people who smoke, and people don't. Don't hate me for the sole fact that I am a smoker.

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Originally Posted by MissDizzyBee

Your interpretation of the new law is correct. We already have a standing law that you cannot smoke within 25 feet of the entrance of any public building or business as well.

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Ok, in that case, this makes the whole argument just THAT much more ridiculous. So, there are laws in place already that the general public already must move 25 feet away from the entrance to a public building. And now, all they are doing is extending that same ordinance to government subsidized housing?

I'm sorry if I offend, but it now looks more to me like a case of someone who wants to take FULL advantage of government assistance just looking for a place to whine and garner sympathy because the big bad government is making ANOTHER rule that is an inconvenience to them. If everyone else has to do it everywhere else, what's the problem here?

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Originally Posted by wilomn

EHHHhh, wrong answer.

Your right to enjoy your poison does not give you the right to poison anyone else. I seriously disagree with your statement about second hand smoke and dare you to post sources for it.

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Zuuuh Okay me? Nearly all my friends. All our parents smoked for years and years and none of us have any health problems. I DO remember reading an article about it at some point but I never saved it. And there's alot of money in anti smoking lobbying right now so of course the studies are biased.


You don't have the right to tell people they can't smoke. It's unamerican. If you own a buisness or a home you can forbid someone to smoke therein. But if you just "Don't like it" it's selfish, nay foolish to try and forbid someone. Be a Freedom loving red blooded american. If you don't wanna smell smoke sit at a different table. Walk away your not helpless.

God everyone wants government to do everything for them. Why not solve your own problems instead of crying to government to take away our rights.


Everyone dies of something. Tobacco, Driving, Cancer, Hey snakes can kill people to. Hmmm what else. Over drinking, Guns, You can even die from drinking to much water. So lets outlaw all those things. And Hamburgers, and Bungie Jumping. Motorcycles.

Hell lets just outlaw fun.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Zuuuh Okay me? Nearly all my friends. All our parents smoked for years and years and none of us have any health problems. I DO remember reading an article about it at some point but I never saved it. And there's alot of money in anti smoking lobbying right now so of course the studies are biased.


You don't have the right to tell people they can't smoke. It's unamerican. If you own a buisness or a home you can forbid someone to smoke therein. But if you just "Don't like it" it's selfish, nay foolish to try and forbid someone. Be a Freedom loving red blooded american. If you don't wanna smell smoke sit at a different table. Walk away your not helpless.

God everyone wants government to do everything for them. Why not solve your own problems instead of crying to government to take away our rights.


Everyone dies of something. Tobacco, Driving, Cancer, Hey snakes can kill people to. Hmmm what else. Over drinking, Guns, You can even die from drinking to much water. So lets outlaw all those things. And Hamburgers, and Bungie Jumping. Motorcycles.

Hell lets just outlaw fun.

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So you think you should be able to drive a motorcycle on sidewalks thru redlights and as fast as you want where ever you want?

They are not banning smoking it is just a simple regulation like stop at red lights and you can't drive on sidewalks so again it seems to me you are objecting to walking 13 paces. It reminds me of my little cousin screaming because he just wanted to eat his breakfast on the floor of the kitchen rather than go way over there (19 feet) to the table.

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Originally Posted by kitedemon

So you think you should be able to drive a motorcycle on sidewalks thru redlights and as fast as you want where ever you want?

They are not banning smoking it is just a simple regulation like stop at red lights and you can't drive on sidewalks so again it seems to me you are objecting to walking 13 paces. It reminds me of my little cousin screaming because he just wanted to eat his breakfast on the floor of the kitchen rather than go way over there (19 feet) to the table.

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Your comparing driving a motorcycle on the sidewalk to smoking? Forgive me if the comparison seems overblown and moronic at best. Note: Not YOU the the comparison.

No one is going to say you should ride your motorcycle on the sidewalk or disobey stop signals. It would surely kill or hurt someone. A little second hand smoke won't. It just won't. Despite all the biased government funded studies designed to find a specific result. Unless you sit in a small unventilated room with a smoker for a long period everyday I doubt you'll be harmed. I know I wasn't And I know a wealth of people who weren't.


Your example reminds me of the overprotective mother who won't let her daughter go to school dances because she might Kill herself because of the destructive modern music and influences..

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Zuuuh Okay me? Nearly all my friends. All our parents smoked for years and years and none of us have any health problems.

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How can you possibly use yourself as an example? You're 25 years old(I checked your profile)..how do you know that you wont develop it at a later age or how do you know you dont already have an unnoticeable case of it now? Are you a doctor? Do you get your entire body CAT scanned regularly for any kind of irregularity? I'm only 23 years old and I'm still afraid that I might get cancer because of the 6 or so years that I smoked...Just so you know it's not like you take a puff of your cig or incidentaly inhale some second hand smoke and instantly have/know you have cancer...It can go unnoticed for years and by then it's more than likely too late...

I've known a few people who died of cancer and do you know how it usually went? They thought they were in 100% condition, and were cocky as heck about it and then some doctor says...well lets just do this test just to be safe...next thing you know they're on chemotherapy fighting for their lives...

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Originally Posted by Seru1

A little second hand smoke won't. It just won't. Despite all the biased government funded studies designed to find a specific result. Unless you sit in a small unventilated room with a smoker for a long period everyday I doubt you'll be harmed. I know I wasn't And I know a wealth of people who weren't.


Your example reminds me of the overprotective mother who won't let her daughter go to school dances because she might Kill herself because of the destructive modern music and influences..

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Your statements prove that you really don't know much about what you're talking about.

If you do, prove it.

I'll give you a little hint though. Some cancers take years to grow to the point that any even thinks to look for them.