Heath Ledger found dead in NYC

http://www.cnn.com/

I know, I saw this! I think it's terrible... he had a two-year old daughter. And he is only 28... I'm 24. Scary stuff.

Really makes you think...

Woah....

I had no idea! :(:(:(

Chris just told me when I walked in the door. Pretty darn sad... :rainon:

Wow he played the Joker in "The Dark Knight" thats coming out this July

I thought my co-workers were pulling my leg when they first told me! RIP Heath Ledger.

Noooo! Not Heath! Wow! What a sad day. :(

I know, I just saw it too on MSN. How sad for him, and mostly for his little girl.

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Originally Posted by Kristy

I know, I just saw it too on MSN. How sad for him, and mostly for his little girl.

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Sad for his little girl yes. Said for him? WRONG!!! You do drugs you have whats coming to you. And for him it was death. You play you pay.

Thats pretty nuts, we were talking about it hear in the office.

A true loss.

They say the drugs were nothing more than over the counter sleeping pills.

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Originally Posted by Sinsation

A true loss.

They say the drugs were nothing more than over the counter sleeping pills.

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Heath Ledger a true loss:O You are joking right? Finding Clint Eastwood dead would be a true loss. Actors like Ledger are a dime a dozen.

Belittling someones existance is not a very nice thing to do.

Dude... no sympathy or what? yea its his fault that he did it but i mean come on he was a good actor and is going to be missed.

Heath was truly talented, and dare I say, will be sorely missed. I look forward to seeing batman even more now.

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Originally Posted by Lewdogg3

Dude... no sympathy or what? yea its his fault that he did it but i mean come on he was a good actor and is going to be missed.

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Good actor? Avg. at best. Missed by who other than his family or friends?

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Good actor? Avg. at best. Missed by who other than his family or friends?

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Yea, we need more of your attitude...:rolleyes: Give it a rest already

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Missed by who other than his family or friends?

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And what about you when you die?

Just because he is famous (or not, by your standards) doesn't mean you should belittle his death.

Every life is important, no matter who it is.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Yea, we need more of your attitude...:rolleyes: Give it a rest already

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Oh wait that right i'm on ball-pythons.net. Where ones opinon is not allowed.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Oh wait that right i'm on ball-pythons.net. Where ones opinon is not allowed.

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Would this be a complain about this forum :rolleyes:

While I did not particularly care about Heath Ledger as an actor it always sadden me to see someone so young (famous or not) die tragically.

I could care less about him and his career. What I care about is that his little girl will grow up without her father.
They found him in bed with sleeping pills all around him...if he did kill himself then I have absolutley no respect for him. To knowlingly do that to his little girl...not much of a man by my standards.

What is your problem? You have been allowed your opinion! Some are asking that you not continue to repeat your opinion, given that, in my opinion, your opinion is rather crass and lacking in any basic empathetic feelings whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Oh wait that right i'm on ball-pythons.net. Where ones opinon is not allowed.

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My brother killed himself. I believe you owe it to yourself and those who might hear you to discover more about this subject- a lot more.

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Originally Posted by monk90222

I could care less about him and his career. What I care about is that his little girl will grow up without her father.
They found him in bed with sleeping pills all around him...if he did kill himself then I have absolutley no respect for him. To knowlingly do that to his little girl...not much of a man by my standards.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Good actor? Avg. at best. Missed by who other than his family or friends?

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Yes, we get it, you think he's a crappy actor and not worth our condolences. Well, I think he was an excellent actor, a good looking guy, and worth my condolences.

No, I don't care to read your posts over and over again about how he's not going to be missed, he wasn't a good actor blah blah blah. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. It's pretty simple, and what your doing is trolling and trying to push buttons.

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Originally Posted by starmom

My brother killed himself. I believe you owe it to yourself and those who might hear you to discover more about this subject- a lot more.

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I disagree. MY opinion is that I have no respect for suicide when there are children that have to grow up knowing that their parents couldn't find a way to live for them and took the easy way out!

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Originally Posted by monk90222

I disagree. MY opinion is that I have no respect for suicide when there are children that have to grow up knowing that their parents couldn't find a way to live for them and took the easy way out!

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My original post to you stands. There are many dysfunctional things you have just said and I wish that you might look at them.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Sad for his little girl yes. Said for him? WRONG!!! You do drugs you have whats coming to you. And for him it was death. You play you pay.

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It is sad for him. Sad that he was using drugs, sad that no one noticed and stepped in and tried to help. So yes it is sad that he abused drugs and it led to his untimely death. You are right, you play you pay, I know this better than most people. However it doesn't make it any less tragic, death is death no matter which way you look at.

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Originally Posted by starmom

My original post to you stands. There are many dysfunctional things you have just said and I wish that you might look at them.

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Like I said in my response to you before, I disagree. You or anyone else cannot tell me how I feel or judge MY OPINION.
I feel that if he did in fact kill himself, he is a disgrace. That is my opinion, no matter how dysfunctional you think it is. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Kristy

It is sad for him. Sad that he was using drugs, sad that no one noticed and stepped in and tried to help. So yes it is sad that he abused drugs and it led to his untimely death. You are right, you play you pay, I know this better than most people. However it doesn't make it any less tragic, death is death no matter which way you look at.

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Great post Kristy, death is death, it doesn't make it any less tragic no matter how life ends.

You play you pay!! There is always "Someone" left behind, Young old it doesnt matter.. What matters is He is gone and wont be the last.. Some of you posting should reread what you have said. Your all fighting over a Person that had a disease!! Not a Crazy person out Killing people for a Joy ride.. Not every person that ods is a scumbag.. RIP Heath! And My best wishes to his Family that have to deal with it Forever....

Apparently he was sick with pneumonia when he died today.

A doctor saved my life against my will one time. I cussed him out for doing it! At the time I had children that were small. In my mind I felt they would be better off without me. When I look back on that I realize how far from right I was. If I knew that doctor now I would thank him wholeheartedly. I got treatment and hung in there. I enjoy every day that I have with my kids and grandkids. Someone like that needs help, not pity or disgust.:(

Before everyone argues this, you might want to consider that, as far as I'm aware, there has been no official determination of cause of death. That means no legal determination that this man was an abuser of drugs (prescription or otherwise), no determination it was a suicide, no determination it was an accidental overdose or even a drug reaction. Until the ME says so, it's all purely speculation.

The stuff that goes on online when a famous person dies, simply astounds me.

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The stuff that goes on online when a famous person dies, simply astounds me.

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I agree, the press is so quick to judge, they dont ever wait for official statements and such.

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Sad for his little girl yes. Said for him? WRONG!!! You do drugs you have whats coming to you. And for him it was death. You play you pay.

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Half the people you know probably "have it coming", too. I don't even know who Keith Ledger is, but his death isn't a good thing, especially since he has children. Pretty cold dude.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

Oh wait that right i'm on ball-pythons.net. Where ones opinon is not allowed.

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What, is your regular playground not functioning, so you didn't know what to do with yourself other than get on a new site to try to stir some spit up? If you don't think this site's policies suit you, why spend your time here? Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

You play you pay!! There is always "Someone" left behind, Young old it doesnt matter.. What matters is He is gone and wont be the last.. Some of you posting should reread what you have said. Your all fighting over a Person that had a disease!! Not a Crazy person out Killing people for a Joy ride.. Not every person that ods is a scumbag.. RIP Heath! And My best wishes to his Family that have to deal with it Forever....

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Who are you and what have you done with John? :confuzd:

JAS FOR PRESIDENT IN 08!!! :salute:

-adam

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Who are you and what have you done with John? :confuzd:

JAS FOR PRESIDENT IN 08!!! :salute:

-adam

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Just another ****** with a disease!! Rock on!!!

It's sounding more and more like an accidental overdose. He had complained in a couple interviews recently about not being to sleep well and needing to take a break from work. That and the fact he was suffering from pneumonia could mean a bad drug interaction or even that because he was sick, he didn't pay attention to just how many pills he had taken.

In reality; many fatal overdoses were not done by someone looking to kill themselves. They were results of the drug taker looking for a higher high; like someone drinking too much. True, some people purposely OD on a drug with intent to kill themselves. But I believe that most OD deaths are accidental. Add to all this, the feeling of disconnected senses and limited inhibitions experienced with many drugs.. it is not surprising that users OD and die. Sad, yes.. extremely sad that their families and friends have to live without them. And sad that the victim missed out on more years of healthy living that they could have had if they stayed off of the substances.

This is so sad! I have to say that the first thing I started to think about when I heard that there were sleeping pills found was wether it was intentional or not. I'd heard something about the sleeping pills he was on were habit forming, and if he was sick it could have been a combination of so many things that lead to an unintentional death. I was so shocked b/c you never hear a whole lot about him. Usually the actors/singers/whatnot that are doing drugs and intentionally trying to abuse them get caught or at least noticed. So many people see them every day it's not as easy for them to hid a drug habit as it is for someone that isn't being followed every day.

My thoughts and prayers are with his family. He didn't deserve to die so young, and I hope some of you guys will pause for a second before you post and have a little respect for the lost of a life. No one on here knows for sure if it was intentional or not, and I say give the guy the benefit of the doubt and respect the life that he was allowed to live.

It's always nice to see people give so much understanding to another person's misfortune. The next time somebody famous dies will you all do me a favor and remind me to slap myself silly?

I'd like to be incoherent and dizzy so I can better understand these comments. Thank you. :)

I agree that there has been far too much speculation and rumoring/gossip about his death. There has been no official statement released as to the cause, and as far as I know, at the time of this posting, there has not even been an autopsy.

The first time I heard about this, earlier today, I was told that he had been found dead and naked in Ashley Olsen's bedroom. :weirdface

I’ll wait to see the autopsy results and definitive proof before I comment again about Heath’s passing. My thoughts are with his family and loved ones at this time, especially his child.

RE: Suicide
Sadly, I've had to deal with this subject in my personal life, by association with friends and close relatives who have attempted. Subsequently, I have undergone response training in how to deal with, and speak to, people who are considering ending their own lives.

The topic is as delicate as it is multifaceted. One of the major things I've learned is that nobody chooses to end their life on a whim or out of boredom. In the majority of the time, the decision is reached because it seems like the best possible solution for ending what is perceived as inescapable suffering. The suffering can be physical, such as that experienced by people with chronic illness, or emotional in nature.

It is vital for the rest of us to understand that when discussing 'suffering' that the term is relative. None of us can reasonable 'compare' or 'grade' a level of human suffering, or dismiss another person’s pain.

That said; I find the idea of casting blanket judgments against all people who are driven to contemplate suicide quite disconcerting. Such a projection of blind condemnation is highly dangerous when met by people considering such an action themselves. Has it not been considered that there very well may be a person here, on these boards, who will read such negative judgment directed toward them?

The result is never good.

If you or anyone you know is considering suicide, there is help.

http://suicidehotlines.com/
http://www.youthsuicide.ca/
http://www.suicideinfo.ca/

1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)
1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255)
1-800-799-4TTY (4889) -> for deaf people

Ok what did I miss? Why are you posting suicide prevention numbers?

It never hurts to give out useful information like that.

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We have that many people at risk here at the forum?

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Originally Posted by Earl

Ok what did I miss? Why are you posting suicide prevention numbers?

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You missed several posts earlier in this thread that directly discussed the possibility of Heath having committed suicide. Some of the comments were compassionate, while others were, IMO, judgmental to the point of callousness.

That is what I was addressing, for the reasons outlined in my earlier post. The helpline numbers and websites were listed for the same reasons.

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Originally Posted by Earl

We have that many people at risk here at the forum?

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I mentioned the simple fact that one can never know... so perhaps it is wiser to err on the side of caution, rather than lambasting people who may very well be in that painful position.

Are you referring to monks comments?

An absolute shame he was a good actor and very sexy to look at....he will be missed RIP

from what i heard on the radio today, he's been stuggling with addiction problems for years but has been able to keep it under the radar for the mostpart. according to his friends, he's been having a really hard time of it and whether accidental, or suicide, they aren't all that surprised. also, he'd started taking the ambien while filming batman. his role was deeply disturbing to him and he wasn't able to sleep. one night, he had said he took 2 ambien and still only slept 2 or 3 hours.

at this point, i don't see how anyone can really know what happened. it could've easily gone either way. but they still haven't even named his official cause of death so it could be something completely different. maybe he had some hidden disease that wasn't known to the public. until we know, it's really not fair for anybody to criticize him.

I heard the best response to this on the radio this afternoon. One radio DJ said that he's heard so many things, from suicide to accidental overdose, him being sick, him being in Mary Kate's apartment, etc, that he refuses now to talk about it, or to take calls from listeners talking about it, until the official cause of death is released.

No matter how you look at it, it's sad to see a life cut so short, for whatever the reason. My heart goes out to his fans, friends and family, especially the daughter who will grow up never knowing her father...

RIP Heath Ledger...