Black Pastels.

:) Black Pastels. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169445963

Black Pastels. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169446153

Black Pastels. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169446271

Black Pastel. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169505114

Gorgeous

Awsome Balls, I would love to eventually get one . https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/yourrock.gif

Wow you've produced a lot of cool morphs this year....

One of my keeper Black Pastels, spank you! :P http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169590769

Can we see some shots of the parents?

Sorry Brad;) My breeders are busy making little Black Pastels. :soapbx: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169591712

No lock-up shots?

:no: Brad, If you would like to purchase a Black Pastel I would be happy to send you pics of my breeders!:no:

I didn't know this was a "for sale" thread...I thought you were just posting pictures? :confused:

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I didn't know this was a "for sale" thread...I thought you were just posting pictures? :confused:

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I'll be happy to relocate if that is the case.

Call me a idiot but i've been looking at pics of black pastels and I can't see what makes them a black pastel and not a normal... Can someone clear this up for me and tell me the defining characteristics of a black pastel.. and since you're at it a cinnamin pastel

Thanks

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Call me a idiot but i've been looking at pics of black pastels and I can't see what makes them a black pastel and not a normal... Can someone clear this up for me and tell me the defining characteristics of a black pastel.. and since you're at it a cinnamin pastel

Thanks

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You can't see a difference?

Cinnamon
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2s1_251924.jpg


Normal
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...F08_644350.jpg

Very nice cinnamon pastel Lawrence! :)

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Call me a idiot but i've been looking at pics of black pastels and I can't see what makes them a black pastel and not a normal... Can someone clear this up for me and tell me the defining characteristics of a black pastel.. and since you're at it a cinnamin pastel

Thanks

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This is a cinnamon Pastel. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169673722

This is a Black Pastel. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169689629

This is a Black Pastel. :eek: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169689840

This is a black pastel. :eek: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169689980

This is what you get when you breed a Black Pastel with a Super Pastel. :eek: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169690113

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This is what you get when you breed a Black Pastel with a Super Pastel. :eek: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169690113

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that's hot Ed!! it's cool how some of them are lighter and some are darker.:)

how about the silver bullet pic? i'd like to see how they compare. c'mon Ed. please? :) :worship: :bow: :please:


vaughn

Black pastels have the black markings within the alien heads, darker eyes and a light brown head.

Gorgeous snakes, and pictures Ed! Looks like that D50 is doing you well:)

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Black pastels have the black markings within the alien heads, darker eyes and a light brown head.

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Thanks LadyOhh thats what I was wanting..

I had already looked at the pics and if you don't know what to be looking for you can't necesarily see the differences. Especially if looking at a normal that isn't quite obviously a normal. I have a normal that to the untrained eye looks alot more like a cinnamin pastel than a normal especially when you compare her to the 2 pics in the first posting.

I think the black pastel is one of my favorite morphs.

I think the black pastel and cinnamon pastels are very cool snakes and their potential with combos hasn't been completely tapped yet IMHO. When you see good examples like Ed's and compare them to normals, the differences are very clear.

Here is my cinnamon female on the left and my largest male black pastel (Ian G's line) on the right.

Alice

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...Cini-Fonzi.JPG

black pastel
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1169968776

A NICE COMPARISON SHOT. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170501630

Pewters also come out of black pastel breedings. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170502096

Very nice Ed! Thanks for showing us the two together.

Black Pastel. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170637021

Hi

that are some amazing morphs you have..But add what for price are those Black pastels ?

Gr stijn

Alice, that was a killer cinny!

Black Pastels are selling anywhere from $800.00 - $1500.00 :)

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Hi

that are some amazing morphs you have..But add what for price are those Black pastels ?

Gr stijn

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thats not so much i think..that are 700-1100 euro's.. I think they are a good investment is't it ?

Gr stijn

I think they are a great investment, just look at what you can make with Black Pastels!


Not alot of people working with these and theres alot that still can be discovered. :)

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Hi

thats not so much i think..that are 700-1100 euro's.. I think they are a good investment is't it ?

Gr stijn

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yes i just love those morph you can get with this morph..But i really love bumble bees :d.. And super pastel spider Albino mojavo

gr stijn

The Silver Streaks produced with the Black Pastels are very nice. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170701970

Hi

yes the are amazing..But what for other nice combo's are there with that Morph ?

What do you get when you put a Spider x Black pastel

gr stijn

Good question, theres still lots of new morphs to be made with Black Pastels.


Dont think that Spider X Black Pastel has been done?

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Hi

yes the are amazing..But what for other nice combo's are there with that Morph ?

What do you get when you put a Spider x Black pastel

gr stijn

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ow i have a whas wondering if there i not a Genetic ball python programma ore something?

gr stijn

I think that will make some thing cute..But Bumble bee x Fire make i think something Pretty but is that proven

Gr stijn

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Hi

yes the are amazing..But what for other nice combo's are there with that Morph ?

What do you get when you put a Spider x Black pastel

gr stijn

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NERD produced a Cinnamon X Spider which they call the Cinnabee and is essentially the same thing as a Spider X Black Pastel.

That cinnabee is nice but I cant wait to do it with a Black Pastel, the pewter bee is on my list also. This is getting to bee way to much fun! :P

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NERD produced a Cinnamon X Spider which they call the Cinnabee and is essentially the same thing as a Spider X Black Pastel.

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Someone asked for a pic of a breeder, heres a 7 plus year old male that has been breeding since november. I started breeding early this year and it seems to be paying off big time! :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170725059

A pretty lil boy. :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170740492

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Someone asked for a pic of a breeder, heres a 7 plus year old male that has been breeding since november. I started breeding early this year and it seems to be paying off big time! :) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...g?t=1170725059

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You sure that's not 1/2 Rainbow boa!?!? :P CRAZY irridesence there ED!!!:sunny:

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Alice, that was a killer cinny!

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Thanks. I think she is amazing! I purchased her from Mike Wilbanks at Daytona a while back. This season she is locking up but not as well as some of my other females. I'll just have to wait to see and do the midnight naked egg dance.

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I think they are a great investment, just look at what you can make with Black Pastels! Not alot of people working with these and theres alot that still can be discovered. :)

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Ed, I agree totally. The combos with cinnys and black pastels are virtually untapped. In addition, the price of the morph is very reasonable so more people can get into this project - unlike my calico project. I think we'll see some really awesome combos produced this year and for years to come . . . especially from good "stock" like Ed's.

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