check this out !@!!!!!

I didn't know where to put this .. if im in the wrong place .. mods please move it .. but it should fit here .. its a new site everyone should check .. I think it has great future possibilities if a bunch of people jump on board with it .. its call reptilebay.com its a auction site .. but the really what I think it is and what it can be if people start getting with it .. it would be like a online reptile show .. it could be great .. I think the idea is great and I just wanna get it out there so all of u can check it out .. these stuff on there that ends today that's going 4 great prices .. granted this site just got up and running so not a lot of people know yet so u might find something at a amazing price right now .. I would just go check it and read the about us so u can get a idea where there going


thanks Steve

Cool site. Thanks for the info.

welcome

Interesting idea. I wonder what it will do to prices. If it really brings in all the small time breeders to be able to sell to the masses, I think that it could cause a more rapid price correction to account for changes supply and demand. Of course it could open up demand from people that for whatever reason want to buy there, but not on facebook.

I still like to see in person the snake that I am buying. Also as a seller, I like to have the person see it before they buy it. It just makes the chance of something going wrong, so much smaller.

im thinking it could keep prices good if everyone is on the same ship .. like u have morphs that dropped like crazy and its because theres people jumping into this hobby with the ideas of getting rich so they breed these expensive morphs and sell them dirt cheap and its messing up the bizz IMO ..

i understand what mike is trying to do .. hes tryng to get all breeders / hobbyist in one place ..
it could turn out great .. maybe even more balanced pricing across the board .. i just think it opens up the market better just depends on if everyone gets with .. think if he got his 80k followers on fb .. and brian from bhb got his 80k followers and ben sigel got his ( i know ben is big on fb auctions ) just think of all the buyers and that's just 3 people .. the possibilities are endless

N e body check the site out yet ????

Great find man! I will probably spend a lot of time on here for now on... So i kind of hate you as well ;) i actually read the entire user agreement on the homepage lol


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its interesting.

but it seems a bit incomplete. for example, each seller should have a detailed profile. right now the website appears to be in test mode, and i only see one seller, Mike Wilbanks. it says he can bring the BP to Hamm, Germany, or to Hong Kong for free. so the website should also contain the dates, when exactly he will be at what location. the overview should also list the name of the seller with each snake, and show the ratings for that seller. right now i only see one picture for each snake, only one perspective, and its not particularly high resolution.

there are many places where you see the name of the seller, but not the ratings for that seller.

so, some things need to be added. most importantly a profile page for the sellers, with information about the seller, where you can see past auctions and ratings and contact information, and a description of the breeding operation, what size, what species. and where the seller can introduce himself/herself. basically what breeders have on their websites under "about us" and "contact us".

It only just launched last week, so im sure Mike will be putting a lot more work into it. So far I love it and see a ton of potential for the hobby in general. If he can attract more sellers and enough page views it could easily surpass Facebook auctions, which everyone pretty much hates anyways. This is a much needed step in the right direction in the evolution of the auction format

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Does anyone know if you can set a reserve? It seems like an interesting idea. One thing I like is that the price of an individual snake will be reflective of the quality of the animal. If you have an excellent example of a morph you might even wind up with more than you would have asked for. Conversely, if you have a really crappy example you will get what is reflective of that. I see far too many people listing an animal of bad quality for a price reflective of top quality. I think this will reward the people that have taken the time to hand pick quality when it comes to their breeding stock.

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I like the idea and think its cool.
I would like to see more pictures of the listed animals but everything has to start somewhere right?

Pretty cool. I see some potential. Thanks for sharing Steve!

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Kevin


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I agree it needs a lot of work but hope it stays relatively simple. Dont nuke it!


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Ohhhhhh boy, I can see myself in the future pissing the wife off with this.

The potential is interesting, but the only animals I have ever purchased site-unseen (i.e. held in my hand, because pics can be misleading), were from established breeders who I have a relationship with and trust. But then again, I've never been into owning a lot of animals at low-low prices. I'd rather pay more for a quality animal that I can see in person before I buy it.

As always, your mileage may vary ;)

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its interesting.

but it seems a bit incomplete. for example, each seller should have a detailed profile. right now the website appears to be in test mode, and i only see one seller, Mike Wilbanks. it says he can bring the BP to Hamm, Germany, or to Hong Kong for free. so the website should also contain the dates, when exactly he will be at what location. the overview should also list the name of the seller with each snake, and show the ratings for that seller. right now i only see one picture for each snake, only one perspective, and its not particularly high resolution.

there are many places where you see the name of the seller, but not the ratings for that seller.

so, some things need to be added. most importantly a profile page for the sellers, with information about the seller, where you can see past auctions and ratings and contact information, and a description of the breeding operation, what size, what species. and where the seller can introduce himself/herself. basically what breeders have on their websites under "about us" and "contact us".

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First, thanks for posting this. We just launched last week and I am just getting things rolling over there. If you read the "About Us" section you will see the philosophy behind the site. In a nutshell, part of the problem that I see with the market is that sellers are too spread out. These fake market prices that everyone seems to love perpetuating are also hurting things and my customers. I can sell animals at the highest market price that someone comes up with. Here is an example. The first of the 2013 hatch season, people started talking about what Bananas would sell for. Most agreed that they should be around $5000. I figure people are going to undercut me anyway so I sell for $6000. A month later, after I have sold 7 or 8 at that price, someone advertises at $3500. Now I have 7 or 8 customers mad at ME because I sold them at an inflated price. They are not mad at the guy who sold at $3500, they are mad at me. That is only one morph, there are many other examples. I'm not playing this game anymore. I cannot continue to have my customer paying the price for buying from me. We produce too many animals every year to just sit on them because this stopped being a hobby for us many years ago. It is a business and I have payroll to meet, taxes to pay, etc. The market for many of these morphs has grown too large for any of us to control anymore. You can be in denial about this fact, but REAL market forces, supply and demand are here. We have to find a way to discover the REAL market prices. Bottom line, something is worth what someone will pay for it. An auction unleashes the real market and allows people to fight for what they want and decide what they are willing to pay. The problem with the FB auction on everyone's own FB page is half the time, I hear about something after it happened. Someone will tell me "did you see what such and such morph went for" and I would go to the page, after the fact, and say to myself I would have given more than that. How many times a day is this happening? My idea was to get a majority of us in one place where we could see what the market price really is for our creations. Like I said, you can deny this fact, but the auctions are here to stay, on FB, my site, some other site or somewhere but the toothpaste is out of the tube now and there's no getting it back in.

I resisted the idea of auctions for a long time. Sales slowed and many of my customers contacted me asking me when I would be doing them. It was becoming the only way customers want to buy. So, in November I started doing them on my Facebook. I was getting good prices and it was fun. Fun to watch and fun for the customers. So as I was researching, I participated in one of Ben Siegels auctions. Ben Siegel started the whole concept and has become the auction king. It was fun. I got caught up in winning and overpaid. I thought to myself this new way of buying is here to stay but Facebook is not the place for it, IMO. I don't like running them on FB because I have to constantly watch the clock and try to figure out when it ends etc. For those of you that are not familiar, the Overtime format adds 5 minuted to the clock every time there is a bid in the last 5 minutes or some variation of that. The point is it prevents someone "sniping" or waiting for the last second to try to get a bid in to steal the auction. This is a great format for sellers. It causes us to maximize the sales price. Ebay does not use this because there is no upside in it for them. They want buyers to get things for as cheap as possible, because sellers are always going to be there.

On to ReptileBay. We are not in test mode, we are live. I assume most customers know when the Hamm show is each time because it's the largest show in the world, but I think it would be a good idea for me to add the dates to my descriptions. I will do that now, thanks for that advise. We already have many of the other features that you are asking for. We do not have a seller profile area where they can tell about themselves. I am not trying to make another Facebook or a website to tell about each seller. That should be done as part of the description on every auction in my opinion. The description area allows HTML so the seller can get really creative with banner ads and links to their FB, website, etc. This is the place where a customer is considering purchasing from you so why not tell them everything about yourself right there? I just have the HTML description saved on a notepad and I copy and paste the general info on every auction. If you are not familiar with HTML, you simply write your description, then click the source button which contains all of your font colors, links, etc and copy that info to paste into your next auction.

Many of the features only become visible when you are logged in. The Sellers rating/feedback is next to the stars on every auction. If a seller has a rating, you can click the number and it will take you to their feedback section. This is real feedback, from real customers. They are the only ones allowed to post feedback. Same for buyers. I post feedback on buyers, like fast pay, etc.

You can view "Sellers other listings" to see all that seller has to offer. If you click the "Advanced Search" in the upper right, then only check "include completed listings" you can see what animals really sold for. Eventually this will give us a database to show us where the market really is with enough seller participation.

The pictures can be super sized and are very hi res. Every seller has the opportunity to post up to 6 photos. I only post 1 because that's all I have mostly ever done, but that is the sellers choice. You can even post a Youtube video of the animal if you choose. In the future, I plan to have a youtube video telling about my company that I post on every auction, but every seller can make their own choices about how their ad will look. If auction is not your thing, then sellers can also post classified ads. Name another classified that allows a video to be posted as part of the ad.(there might be one, I don't get out much). The mobil version works great which is important because there are many users that only bid from their phone. We have translated many parts of the site into several different languages and we are working on that constantly. When we are finished, you will be able to navigate any part of the site in Chinese, Russian, French, German, Dutch, Spanish and of course English.

In the end, I truly hope it becomes a marketplace that will add stability to the market. If the sellers don't come, then I will have a cool place to post my auctions. I invited everyone, but that's all I can do is open the invitation. The customers are there and that's the really important part for me. I am not sure if the mods here want me to post a link so I will not out of respect. There will be a link on my website soon.

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Yes, you can put a reserve if you choose. You can also put a Buy It Now price where a customer will just click buy it now and it connects them with Paypal to send you the money. You set up your paypal when you sign up and when a buyer wins your auction, they can check out and the money comes to you. It is much more simple that chasing your money through a classified ad.

Gave the site a look-over, speaking from purely a technical point-of-view and as someone who buys & sells on other auction sites, I would very much like to see the following features added as I've found they're very useful:
- You need a better search function. Ideally when creating a listing the seller could enter individual data elements such as species, sex, age, base morph(s), price, etc. Users should have an easy way to filter on these, and just as easily be able to filter out certain values. As an example, if I'm looking at hypos or pieds, and don't want to see hets, give me a way to exclude those animals from my search. Similarly if I want to see two-gene animals with Mojave but not Spider, that would be great.
- As a seller I want to be able to block certain bidders from bidding, both based on overall feedback (e.g. no one rated D or less), and specifically by username (because some people's reputations precede them).
- Auction sites run differently and users may be used to certain policies. As an example, eBay permits sellers to cancel a bid, GunBoker.com does not. I don't care either way which you choose, but be warned that bidders used to eBay's policies will be in for a nasty shock if bids can't be retracted.
- Get a valid CC from all registrants before they can bid as it helps keep scammers away. There's a reason scammers abound on ArmsList but not GunBroker.

I know a lot of people hate auctioned because they feel like they hurt the market, but maybe this site can help solve that problem. I mean, I grew up around horses and in the thoroughbred industry there are a lot of breeders who will only sell at auction because there is this feeling that auctions are the best way to gauge market price. Of course, thoroughbred auctions are advertised and have good participation....I guess my point is that I don't think auctions are inherently bad. The problem is more with the way they are happening now. Mike, you summed it up pretty well. I also have heard of plenty of auctions after the fact where I would have gladly paid more.

I set up an account, and may try listing an animal or two to check it out. I do have one question, though. I selected "accept instant checkout." Is that all I need to do to be able to accept credit cards?

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Gave the site a look-over, speaking from purely a technical point-of-view and as someone who buys & sells on other auction sites, I would very much like to see the following features added as I've found they're very useful:
- You need a better search function. Ideally when creating a listing the seller could enter individual data elements such as species, sex, age, base morph(s), price, etc. Users should have an easy way to filter on these, and just as easily be able to filter out certain values. As an example, if I'm looking at hypos or pieds, and don't want to see hets, give me a way to exclude those animals from my search. Similarly if I want to see two-gene animals with Mojave but not Spider, that would be great.
- As a seller I want to be able to block certain bidders from bidding, both based on overall feedback (e.g. no one rated D or less), and specifically by username (because some people's reputations precede them).
- Auction sites run differently and users may be used to certain policies. As an example, eBay permits sellers to cancel a bid, GunBoker.com does not. I don't care either way which you choose, but be warned that bidders used to eBay's policies will be in for a nasty shock if bids can't be retracted.
- Get a valid CC from all registrants before they can bid as it helps keep scammers away. There's a reason scammers abound on ArmsList but not GunBroker.

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All good advice and I appreciate the feedback. As for sellers, we have a "pay to play" setup so a seller has to give us a credit card or paypal before they can list an animal for sale. This should keep out most of the spam unless they want to pay to list it. Also, people just trying to mess with the site will be reluctant to give us good payment info just to cause trouble. At least we will know who all the sellers really are. As for scammers, a buyer has to do the same due diligence as they would on any site. Fauna BOI is full of people who slipped through the radar and I'm not sure how we can cut that out except to deal with people that have built reputations for delivering and ban people as they come up.

Bids cannot be retracted and we are on a simple bidding engine. So, unlike the proxy engine a bidder will most likely have to make several "mistakes" to successfully win an auction. This means if you bid $200, then $200 is your bid unlike Ebay where it continues to bid up to your max. We decided to go this way because I want active participation. As a bidder, I would prefer to know someone is sitting at a computer bidding against me, not just a proxy engine outbidding me. That frustrates me about ebay, but again they have different goals than I do. We will ban bidders as necessary and the admin can delete a bid if necessary. For example someone emailed me and told me they live in Europe and accidentally bid on a US only sellers auction. They did not read the description and assumed it was mine. I retracted their bid for them. It is unlikely that a single bid would ever win anyway. We had these same abilities in the FB environment and these same problems. We just banned the trouble makers and deleted the mistake bids on FB so I guess there will be no fixing every problem.

I am going to add a couple of things to the search like sex, for instance. If you do the advanced search, I think you can narrow it down from there, but I will look at some of the search features. As I said, I really appreciate the feedback as it will help us develop the site into a place people will love to use.

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I know a lot of people hate auctioned because they feel like they hurt the market, but maybe this site can help solve that problem. I mean, I grew up around horses and in the thoroughbred industry there are a lot of breeders who will only sell at auction because there is this feeling that auctions are the best way to gauge market price. Of course, thoroughbred auctions are advertised and have good participation....I guess my point is that I don't think auctions are inherently bad. The problem is more with the way they are happening now. Mike, you summed it up pretty well. I also have heard of plenty of auctions after the fact where I would have gladly paid more.

I set up an account, and may try listing an animal or two to check it out. I do have one question, though. I selected "accept instant checkout." Is that all I need to do to be able to accept credit cards?

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No, you cannot accept credit cards through the site. "Accept instant checkout" will give the winning bidder on your auction a paypal button he can push and pay you for your auction directly from the site. We have nothing to do with that part. It takes them to paypal, the address that you setup and send you the money, then brings them back to the site. You will need to provide a link with payment instructions if you have a credit card gateway setup somewhere.

Thanks for the responses Mike, I'm glad to hear the reasons you started the site in the first place. I could have an awesome animal I wanted to auction on my FB, but I have very few likes and followers. Nobody would even see it. With your site I may actually get market value for my animals.

At first I was against auctions due to the market recently, but this may have changed my mind.

its nice to hear from Mike Wilbanks himself :)


i agree that there is a place for auctions, and that facebook is not the right place for it. (accounts can get banned and vanish in an instant for reasons that have nothing to do with the reptile auction, and people can also make their own comments and accounts disappear. so, bad things can happen, and then you would rely on getting someone from facebooks support staff to sort it out, and they might say: "sorry, this is a social network, not an auction platform".)

i hope you can manage to get some more sellers on board :) people appear to be placing lots of bids and the prices look fine, now there need to be more sellers.

Auctions could be used to sell low end animals. Keeping the high end morphs off will keep the market right. Or youll have a bunch of idiots trying to sell cheap and destroying the market. Personally I think auctions will destroy the bp market and the business as a whole.

Great to hear from Mike on this. I appreciate what he is trying to do. I think the key to success will be getting a large customer base to participate. I think that was the key to EBay's success. Having a large breeder like him will certainly help, but I think it will take a lot of good marketing too.

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Auctions could be used to sell low end animals. Keeping the high end morphs off will keep the market right. Or youll have a bunch of idiots trying to sell cheap and destroying the market. Personally I think auctions will destroy the bp market and the business as a whole.

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:confusd::confusd::confusd: How do you figure if the market sets the price?? Yes if you put something up for auction and only one or two people are interested in it then you might get screwed BUT if you have a group that is interested in an animal then the bidding wars start and the price is how high someone is willing to go. I don't see a problem there.

Keep up the great work mike! I absolutely love the idea, Facebook auctions have major issues and I think is a very logical next step in the evolution of the auction format, which should be a selling format that is here to stay. I really hope this becomes the standard bearer for the online auction format.

Btw im still mad I didnt land that platty daddy!!!!

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Wow that sight will make me bankrupt ...

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well u heard from the man himself .. now its up to all of us to get this thing going in the right direction and to spread the word ..

just like bp.net got started many years ago and look how it flourished over the years ..

we can get reptilebay the same way ..

and keep this hobby/business headed in the direction

peace... Steve

Curious to see how this will go. I do like the idea of a feedback system that's directly tied to a person's ads.

Pretty cool site, more breeders are posting animals for sale so it looks like it has potential.

I hate the fact that im broke

Seems like a good idea.

Hopefully this works and doesnt have a negative effect and bring market prices crashing down. Time will tell if it really is worth it or not.

i really dont think this will crash the prices.

when someone hatched a bunch of hatchlings, and its hard to make out the prices, and he needs to move them fast. that person would check what the big breeders charge, then ask for less, attempt to advertise, an noone buys. but they need to be moved and the income needs to come in and.... thats how you get the serious undercutting. a tiny little facebook auction too few people know about, and the snakes go for cheap. or maybe the person gets 3 feet of table space from someone at some reptile show, pays for it, and goes there with the goal of moving all of them and not taking anything home. its these emergency or panic sales that mess things up.


Then look at WHY Mike Wilbanks set it up. He says prices are so hard to figure out, he sells stuff while others sell it much cheaper, and then he gets complaints and dissatisfied customers. He set it up to figure out the prices, and because Facebook is not for auctions, he built this. facebook will not deal with (or support) auctions, and ebay will not deal with (or support) living things.

The auctions may help to establish more stability in pricing. For big, professional breeders, it would make most sense to use it the following way: sell around 10% of your stuff at these auctions. For advertisement, to reach new customers, to figure out current market prices, and to move stuff that would otherwise be not so easy to move. Of course, big professional breeders will still sell most using their own structures that are already in place. But once the system works, i see how NERD and BHB would have regular auctions just to put their name out there some more, and for stuff where they dont know how much to charge.

back to the small breeder who got to move stuff, emergency sale: its great to have such a platform for that.

so, everything considered, i think the prices will be MORE stable if we have something like that.

GunBroker.com, an auction site for guns, has not caused the price of firearms to crash.

The only think that has stopped me from bidding on a couple animals is shipping.
A couple of the sellers are trying to make money on shipping too.
If they had the normal $50 I would bid, I don't think fedex raised their rates but I am not willing to bid on inflated rates.

I guess, "my bad". The seller is also asking higher shipping on his site too.

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The only think that has stopped me from bidding on a couple animals is shipping.
A couple of the sellers are trying to make money on shipping too.
If they had the normal $50 I would bid, I don't think fedex raised their rates but I am not willing to bid on inflated rates.

I guess, "my bad". The seller is also asking higher shipping on his site too.

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I seen that on the spider het pied they want 60 for shipping .. I think it varies tho where the snake comes from some people just charge a flat of 50 sometimes its upder 50 to ship and sometimes its over they just take the loss maybe .. or maybe they got a thing worked out wirh the company where all they pay is 50 to ship cause there always shipping

I charge flat rate $50 for shipping most of the time because that is easier than getting quotes (and because people complain if you charge more), but I typically lose at least $15 on each shipment (not factoring in the box, packing, drive to FedEx, etc). My cost for shipping ranges between $60-$90 for the most part. That is just what I pay for the shipping itself, not the supplies and trip to FedEx. People who charge less are just eating more of the cost (or in the case of someone who does a ton of volume, they are getting a better rate and eating some of the cost). I really don't think $60 is "inflated."

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Exactly. The snake I have coming in once the weather improves will be $78 actual cost, because it's being shipped from CA to WV. Longer trip = higher price.

I have shipped to California from mass and it usually costs somewhere between 95-120for overnight. The cheapest its ever cost was 35 to ship to NY. I'm not sure about FedEx certified, but mine are syr since I don't ship a tom Most of the time I lose money on shipping because no one will pay that much.

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Yeah, I was just playing and plugging some zip codes and they are almost double what they use to be a year or two ago.:O:O

We need to design a way to get shipping down to $15-20. Sometimes that little guy you find online is just in your price range until you factor in $70 for shipping. I usually end up just waiting for expos and have to pass up on a lot of nice stuff. Wether its a shipping process or a new container that allows for shipping to extend to a few days with the animal still arriving in perfect health.


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I don't think that's possible. Even a USPS Regional Rate B, which is about the smallest box available for herps, is $10 for 2-3 business day delivery with minimal tracking, no insurance, etc. That's before having to add things like insulation, heat pack, a box appropriate for a herp (a Regional B box isn't strong enough), etc.

Tying this back in to the auction site, perhaps another function to add is the ability to query on the seller's state, which would give buyers the option to limit results conductive to a face-to-face transaction and avoid shipping. I can put a lot of gas in the car for even $50...

Tying this back in to the auction site, perhaps another function to add is the ability to query on the seller's state, which would give buyers the option to limit results conductive to a face-to-face transaction and avoid shipping. I can put a lot of gas in the car for even $50...[/QUOTE]

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getting an external company to pick up a box, and to deliver it rapidly across the nation to a specific adress, probarbly via airplane, just costs a lot.

if there is a way to cut down these costs, i think it has to be community-driven. we have local breeders and local reptile shows. now if there would be ways to bring a reptile to one reptile show, and someone else can pick it up at a different reptile show in a different country one week later, that would be awesome, that means you could sort of chain it together.

i think its already being done internationally between the big breeders. because of all the paperwork, CITES and so on, shipping costs are often in the thousands. so when one breeder in the USA wants a specific animal from Tokyo, and he regularly goes to the big reptile show in Germany with his reptiles, and knows a fellow breeder there who always takes his reptiles to a reptile show in Tokyo... you get the idea, payment from USA to Tokyo via bank wire, the german breeder picks it up at the reptile show there and brings it to Germany, and then you hand it over at the reptile show in Germany, where the US breeder who purchased it will be.

of course it only works when the people involved really know and trust each other. or, a big breeder who visits a lot of different reptile shows may offer it as a service, to take reptiles from one show to the next, or from his base of operation to a show, or from a show to his base.

but then, its still complicated and there is work involved, so unless its all based on friendship, and cooperation for mutual benefit, it could still be more expensive. but the basic idea is that its cheaper when the reptile is part of a really large shipment of reptiles, so the savings are real, the question is how to organize it.

Just took a quick look, but I like it! I don't currently have any snakes for sale, but if/when I do, thus looks like a great resource for someone like me to get started.

Just thought it was worth updating the thread. I believe the site has a new address. It is now reptilering.com

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true, there is now a redirect. maybe its now more unique in google or something.

anyway, it seems to be growing, more breeders are now on board. when this thread started and i first checked, i found a lot of BPs from Mike Wilbanks, and one BP from a different breeder. Now its much more diverse.

the usernames still need to be displayed more often, and whenever there is a username, you should be able to click it.

also, frame the ads. when i look at what any breeder has for sale, there is that big fat colorful "PREHISTORIC PETS" banner beneath it. there should be some indication that its an ad. like google does it, find subtle ways to enable people to easily see whats actual content and whats advertisement.