Help identifying these morphs

I saw a local ad for these snakes and was wondering if ya'll could confirm what they are.

This is listed as a fire next to a normal:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...esand/fire.jpg

And this is listed as a granite:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nd/granite.jpg

From what I've seen I think these are what they are listed as but I'm not very experienced, from these pics could ya'll tell me what you think they are? Thanks

The same ad was discussed in this thread.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=98596

I do not think that is a fire nor would I trust buying a granite unless it was from one of the proven genetic lines. There are many animals that have a granite look but are not genetic for the trait.

The pricing is extremly low for the fire and screams scammer to me. They are most likely captive hatched normals.

Thanks I didnt even see that post, funny we were all looking at the same thing, thanks

Both normal...the first is a nice one.

Don't buy any animal from this guy.